Anyone else get a headache trying not to be toxic to your team sometimes?

AMADEUSdotEXE··12 votes·6,129 views

Seeing the same mistakes over and over, poor decsion making, an apparent lack of a functioning brain, etc. Shit is hard man. It becomes more frustrating NOT flaming your teammates that it is when you are. The struggle continues.

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Naymliss3 votes

For me, I don't care. Everyone makes mistakes. I recently watched ls coach a flamer, and he said something along the lines of "you're a 2nd year college student acting like manchild because of some casual players playing league."

He made so many mistakes of his own as well, and iirc he was a gold player. Don't focus on what your teammates are doing, because you sure as hell make plenty of mistakes.

2Charmnot2Charm1 votes

Everyone makes mistakes.

Of course, no one is a robot so it's expected for mistakes to happen now and then, but I'm pretty sure what piss people off in their games is one person making that EXACT SAME MISTAKE multiple times in an row within one game.

The players getting "flamed" for their mistakes are the same type of people that NEVER learns from their mistakes, and it gets better when they refuse to listen to anything someone on their team says especially when there is no passive aggressiveness/angry words involved.

Naymliss1 votes

At the same time, people who flame make similar huge mistakes but will never learn from them because they are too busy shifting the blame.

Woodakoodashooda2 votes

I fullmute all and then I make an oath in all chat "I will not be using chat."

I then proceed to play the game with only the essential game sfx and to my own choice of music.

It makes not being toxic towards idiots easier.

Spoiler Alert: Everyone's an idiot. You, me, EVERYONE!

AMADEUSdotEXE1 votes

Im talking about the whole your team feeding thier lanes AND yours or just your lane. What the hell is the politically correct way to your team fucking you over because they arent refuse to take caution pay attention? Oh no its okay Jinx it isnt your fault you died to my zed again for the 8th time. Ill friend you next game k? Like what the fuck? And then we're expected to accept punishment for reprimanding our teammates when theyre repeating mistake after mistake, making bad plays, not warding, typing more thn playing etc. Riot wonders why people are leaving the game.

The game itself is bound to create frustration on one end. Punishing us for that vs. having someone do something stupid in fortnite and us telling them "that was stupid" oh look no ban.

ZackTheWaffleMan1 votes

Sometimes, I even mute the announcer. I don't want to hear "An ally has been slain" 20 times.

La Belle Sauvage1 votes

Yep me too.

Every game I remember to, I type this:

"I mute all every game, need me ping me"

Troll for Trump2 votes

Yep. Verbal toxicity isnt' the real problem

La Belle Sauvage2 votes

No. None of us are pros and all of us make many mistakes. Did you play perfect in every game you lost?

Azadethe3 votes

I generally am the one of maybe two purpose and strategic based players in my games. We know how the game should operate. But the rest of the team just doesn't believe it.

I think evidence suggests that yes. Some players are near perfect and still lose. Because they cannot relay messages to their teams. Even SKT 1 yells at their Solo/Duo teams because their teammates don't operate under logic and strategy. Go watch their streams sometime. They literally go nuts over people making really dumb mistakes, and 90% of the time..... they are right!

Saying none of us are pros etc seems like a projection of blame to me. Imperfection believes that everything else is imperfect to justify imperfection.

Now.... I'm not saying Perfection exists. But there are modicums of imperfection damn NEAR perfection who should generally be viewed AS a standard for perfection. And some players do have that.

You should try to listen to those who actually know what they are saying and are analyzing. Don't shut them up.

Do you know how many times I tell a team exactly what will happen level 1, 2 and 3, and they completely ignore it, and it happens anyways?

I can tell a team I'm going to get invaded and at what exact time, and where..... and they won't even prepare for it. Welp.... that's your problem! No..... It's yours too.... it's a team game, and if I get boxed out of my own jungle by a mechanical counter, you're sabotaging yourself....

I can tell them that a lane is a duo or a jungle and a laner are a funneling duo. Doesn't matter. They push out anyways and feed the duo. Not once. But over and over. And then ping assistance when their turret is 20% and I'm on the other side of the map after they've already fed 0/4.

I can tell a bot to play passive because the other team has an insanely killer synergy level 1-2. Doesn't matter. They feed level 2 First bloods anyways.

Or I urge my team to ward a certain path because I'm playing something like Pyke and I need vision control not to get shadow ganked on my low HP.... and then the entire game goes by without my team ever setting up good ward paths (which is goddamn important on Pyke!)

In none of these situations...... is there something I myself could do more perfect to remedy a weakness or obstacle. I'm asking/telling my team how to achieve success. They ignore it. Relative to me, yes. They are more imperfect than I am.

La Belle Sauvage1 votes

I concede that we all experience games where we play well yet lose. But you're foolish to think you are never part of the issue.

I see zero games recorded on your profile on op.gg. if you were confident that you are "near perfect" player then you wouldn't have posted here with the Azadethe account.

Just because you claim to predict what will happen doesn't make you a great player. At the very least it means you play a lot.

Let's take a hypothetical from an example you give.

No one on my team wards for me. I need vision as pyke to accomplish x.

1st Scenario No vision is provided, yet you try to accomplish x. You die in the process. Obviously that's on you.

2nd Scenario No vision is provided, but this time tyou accomplish x. That's also on you and still a mistake that you got away with.

And those are just a couple of little things off the top of my head.

If your team never provides vision and as you state vision is cruicial for your goal, why do you continue to pick that champ when your prior experience is that teams don't provide enough vision for you? That is a minor mistake.

I am not saying you're a bad player or you are at fault for your team's losses more than they are.

I claim that you've made mistakes and as soon as you take ownership of those mistakes, when you commit them, you will be a better player for it.

Continue to blame everyone else? And you'll remain at whatever rank you are.

zZ KanKuro Zz2 votes

"Seeing the same mistakes over and over, poor decsion making, an apparent lack of a functioning brain, etc."

I swear sometimes its like my team is legit trying to get me banned for toxicity, its people playing like bronzes in platinum and then when you try to correct them trying something like "dont engage 1v1 in the enemy jungle when all the enemys are missing 40 minutes into the game", they act like I am flaming them while they keep doing things like this at this point either I start flaming or I am playing duo with some friend and he is able to keep me calm.

naruto12671 votes

excalty

Kurt Hyzan1 votes

Yeah in ARAM. Lol yesterday I was Jhin and ran behind the first tower (I had summoner 4 summoner 21 to be sure I mentionned it) and our Katarina ran straight up to the first lane bush, face-checking 5 members of the enemy team and insta-dying giving first blood. Then pinging me with the almighty "Signal that enemies are missing" and spamming "lol useless Jhin no help" and started inting the entire game and flaming me (not on this account)

0DESTROYERZ01 votes

nope, never

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

No not really. If you really need to, then just say all the stuff that you wanna type out in chat out loud instead or scream into a pillow or something. No need to be rude in chat as that will not help the situation. This is just a game after all so there is no need to get upset at such a trivial thing.

Add921 votes

As our lord and savior IWillDominate said once during a stream : ( As a jungler ) you have 2 choices , or you're toxic , or you're depressed .

Sometimes you gotta let the flames out brother . can't help it . or fullmute and you'll feel like you play against dumb AI.

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