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I have been using Minion dematerializer at Le Blanc. I heard Riot wants to rework MinionDematerializ

Poske··2 votes·2,610 views

Minion dematerializer allows LB to WQ entire wave/ranged minions level sometimes 2 levels earlier. It also helps me not get shoved in early

The faster you kill minions the more time you have to do other stuff. So effectivly this increases LB tempo. Doesnt cdr stuff also increase LB tempo. Well if you have to use your dash on a wave TWICE then no... you are losing out on roughly 10-12 seconds

Now if they rework minion dematerializer in something which doesnt help me waveclear I ll be kinda sad. I would prefer different new added rune at that point

Yes I am aware that not many champions are good with minion dematerializier. So far had success with Le blanc and malzahar Infact I am almost certain no AD champion ll ever use it

However not many champions are good with that slow keystone AND THATS a fking keystone. Infact I dont think any champ uses that. EDIT % wise keystones should be used less actually nvm...

Frozen mallet keystone

Perhaps riot could buff the % on MinionDM and create a new rune with whatever idea they have

If ahri Q on way back would do magic Dmg i can guarantee everyone she would be using it. Perhaps someone tested it on ekko granted ekko is in ultra horrible spot atm

Within first minute of video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIxhslDcYiU

11 Comments

kattzkitti2 votes

All they need to do to make Minion Dematerializer good, is change it from a stack of six consumables into a single item with an active on a cooldown that can later be sold for some gold return. That way, it's actually competitive with Magical Footwear, which is currently the only usable rune on that tier.

To prevent the obvious abuse case where you keep using it on the melee minions (which are the important ones, as they're what prevent the other team's minions from pushing the lane), simply cap the damage increase percentage.

kaironen1 votes

Magical footwear is op and minion dematerilizer is too weak currently. I'm not against buffing minion dematerializer but I don't want it to get to the same level of magical footwear. I forgot what the 3rd rune in that tier is, but If it is weak it should get a buff too. It should get a small rework on how it stacks so that melees don't become useless when you wave clear them from only using stacks on the melees. It should feel more impactful but it's hard to balance it since wave clear mages will use this rune to stall for the whole game (back to the ziggs wave clear meta).

kattzkitti3 votes

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Magical footwear is op

It's not OP, it just seems like it is because its competition is so ungodly terrible.

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I forgot what the 3rd rune in that tier is

Future's Market, a noobtrap. Does nothing but give you a linear, and infinitely stacking, 50 gold disadvantage every time you use its effect.

Poske1 votes

I am sorry but a chance of Waveclear ziggs meta is 0% no matter how much you increase his minion damage

Every time I pick ziggs in order to stall for my hypercarry champions one of the 4 things happen

  1. Rift herald just doesnt care
  2. If they get baron I cant waveclear
  3. If I die they have enough time to do their push given how weak towers are
  4. New objectives are more impactful so they force the ziggs out of tower safety

On top of this Ziggs is in a really bad spot. I would be playing him consistently if he wasnt. He wasnt in good spot apart from that 1-2 botlane patches since q hitbox nerf

Best champion for stalling out the game is Sivir (An ADC) and A good Yasuo

Bassicly dont be afraid of waveclear metas they just cant happen.

I just dont want my rune removed

Apparently Noob1 votes

Future's market

Poske1 votes

Hm Idk I always mark melee minions more times to one shot them. The whole cannot mark em multiple times kills a point XD

I ussualy put 1 at ranged thats (4%) 1 at siege (ussualy at level 2 to gain level 3 and cheese) and all rest on mellee

I do like your suggestion besides that

Jbels1 votes

The problem with it is that not enough champions actually find it attractive enough to take. you get niche cases like with lb here, but the vast majority just don't care about it. And that's a problem. It's the reason Malady as an item was removed entirely and its passive and stats split in half and put on two different items that more champions DO buy.

I just hope what they do replace it with is something more champions can see themselves actually taking

Poske2 votes

But they said they wanted to add more keystones

So why not more runes?

I mean atleast Materializer isnt gimmicky

The whole waterwalking rune is the one I want removed

Jbels1 votes

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But they said they wanted to add more keystones

So why not more runes?

I mean atleast Materializer isnt gimmicky

The whole waterwalking rune is the one I want removed

Because making more while leaving Dematerializer there doesn't fix dematerializer. It just serves to highlight how bad it is compared to the other runes even more than is already happening right now

Poske1 votes

True but it found its 2 champions

How many did waterwalking found?

If they nerf waveclear on more mages it might find more champions

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