Hey premaders, stop bringing players in games they dont belong

Gorsz··3 votes·1,387 views

Had a 3 man premade bring their 20 win girlfriend in a gold/Plat MMR game in draft pick.

That should be reportable. Its incredibly selfish when people are trying to actually play/train for ranked. Premades do nothing but jack up matchmaking.

44 Comments

Kikirino2 votes

That is perfect training. Teaches you how to carry people that are boosted or having a bad game. You should thank them.

Cale0172 votes

Pretty sure that people are allowed to bring their friends along to do whatever they want. Unless you're trying to say that none of your friends who were already level 30 played with you while you were leveling your first account, you've participated as well. It's a game that's got options available to play with friends/significant others if you have a shared interest, and people are allowed to do so.

Trust me, I get it. I use normals as practice and when there's a factor like that in the game it feels like you can't get any real practice because the match isn't playing out the way a real ranked one would. But you have to give some leeway for people to play with who they want to. Instead of being angry that you're lumped with a less experienced player, try and act as a guiding hand for them.

Gorsz1 votes

"less experienced player".... more like 20 wins TOTAL in 5's. A brand new player has no business in a decent MMR match.

Dr Clueless PhD4 votes

This is why there are queue restrictions... in Ranked.

Normals are where people can actually play with their friends.

Gorsz1 votes

Blind pick.

Why bring a brand new person into draft pick which is supposed to be the serious mode for normals?

Dr Clueless PhD5 votes

Because Draft isn't the serious mode, it's still in Normals. If Normal Draft was intended to be "serious", it would have similar restrictions like the ones they have in Ranked. The only competitive mode in League is Ranked. That's the way League is set up, that's the way it's been and will likely be for quite some time.

Gorsz1 votes

draft has always been the more serious mode of normals. Always.

Dr Clueless PhD2 votes

It is more serious, yes, you're correct. I can make a game of hopscotch more serious, if I want, but it's still hopscotch. Ranked is the mode where things like this matter, because it is THE competitive mode in League. Draft Normals is still Normals, no matter how you dress it up.

Gorsz1 votes

Draft normals is the serious normals mode that trains people for ranked.

It is not a mode for people brand new to the game, and its not a mode for people trying out a champion.

No matter how much you want to argue.

Dr Clueless PhD1 votes

That's what you think, but it's not what RIOT thinks. Which one of you gets to make decisions about queue's and the rules for them? Three guesses.

Gorsz1 votes

The majority of what Riot thinks is pleasing the Tencent shareholders.

Ok three guesses?

Tencent Tencent Tencent

Dr Clueless PhD1 votes

You can spout off about Tencent all you want (which is completely irrelevant here), that doesn't change one thing:

Riot has decided what the serious game mode is in League, and it's Ranked. ONLY Ranked. Draft Normals is still Normals, no matter how much you want it otherwise.

FooDang1 votes

Draft Mode is for anybody that wants to play Draft Mode...

Gorsz1 votes

And ranked is for anyone who wants to play ranked, yet this game has been out for 5 years, and just recently was rules added that a diamond player cannot duo with a bronze 2.

Its the same fundamental problem im discussing, but people have zero respect for anything that isn't ranked so its shrugged off.

Trylobyte1 votes

More serious post time.

Why not? What better way to get ready for Ranked? That is presumably why you're there too.

"Alright, we're going to invite you to this game so you can see what things are like at our level of play. Watch your teammates and watch the enemies so you can learn what's good play and what's not. We'll point out mistakes you make and ways you can improve as we play, alright? Good. Let's queue up then."

Remember, it may be normal draft, but normal draft is still normal and ultimately of no consequence. Write it off and carry on.

Cale0171 votes

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"less experienced player".... more like 20 wins TOTAL in 5's. A brand new player has no business in a decent MMR match.

Pretty sure a brand new player has every right to be in a match as you do. It isn't ranked, and they're playing with friends. The only one who doesn't have a right here is you trying to tell people who they are or aren't allowed to play with or where they have business being.

The only place that a fresh player really shouldn't be is ranked, and that's why they aren't allowed to use those queues.

Gorsz1 votes

bump because that crap is horseshit.

Ghost/flash Cait top and playing like a beginner bot.

SmokingPuffin1 votes

Why are you blaming the players for the matchmaker's inability to find fair matches for premades of differing skill levels?

That is a solvable problem.

Gorsz1 votes

Because, people on their main accounts should not be queueing for draft pick with a brand new person. It throws off the entire game, and its a selfish act.

Hoffmisc1 votes

It's selfish to not want other people to play with their friends, regardless of their skill level.

FooDang1 votes

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Had a 3 man premade bring their 20 win girlfriend in a gold/Plat MMR game in draft pick.

That should be reportable. Its incredibly selfish when people are trying to actually play/train for ranked. Premades do nothing but jack up matchmaking.

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MPendragon1 votes

I'll be honest, what makes you think their pre-made isn't intended to also train for ranked?

If you're learning how to play the game, you don't want to play against champions that break the ordinary rules of mechanics.

You play blind pick, people are able to play anyone they want to - that could pose a real problem for people learning how to play the game.

Gorsz1 votes

What part of, they brought a brand new person who only had 20 wins in a 5v5 game do you not understand?

They were not training for ranked. They were playing with their online gf, so they could flirt on skype type of crap.

gold/plat MMR with someone who is less experienced than a bronze V. TWENTY wins total in 5's.

MPendragon1 votes

Playing Draft is all about counter-picking the enemy selection, and banning champions you don't want to play against.

And don't hate on a fellow brother because they want to look for romance in their life. That's cock-blocking, and I know you wouldn't like someone doing that to you.

Gorsz1 votes

So its ok to ruin a game because some guy is trying to cyber with some girl 1000 miles away?

KailaTime1 votes

LOL at the cock blocking comment. It's 20-40 mins of a game. You'll survive, and that guy probably really enjoyed playing with some lady friend of his. Not a big deal. You should absolutely be able to continue playing with whomever you would like to.

Gorsz1 votes

There is no point arguing, you will not change my mind and I will not change your mind. Its apparent you're part of the "casual crowd"

Stephenizgod1 votes

You act like you are Diamond or Master, "casual crowd" lmfao wtf is that? Is that suppose to be an insult? Who says that like its a bad thing... Oh geez look what we got here guys, a casual! Hahaha why dont you go and have fun with your girlfriend somewhere else while i stress over a video game by myself.

KailaTime1 votes

This is ridiculous. Normals are to have fun, it is a game after all. I am a Silver, and play with my buddies who are Gold-Platinum all of the time. Yes, there's a skill gap, but it is normals, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with socializing and having fun playing games with your friends. If you have that huge of an issue with it, start your own group in TB, no duos or premades in there if you build the game as captain.

Gorsz1 votes

Its not about "socializing" when you have people not in your premade trying to win the game. If they want to socialize and joke around at other peoples expense they need to stick to the less competitive mode .. ie.. blind pick.

KailaTime1 votes

That's silly. All modes other than Ranked are for fun, and if anything having someone not so great on your team prepares you for when you get idiots in Ranked (happens all of the time). Stop being all sour and get some friends to play with. Sounds like you just need a hug.

Gorsz1 votes

Its silly that people always say "get friends" in a response to premade critisim.

I forgot where this game was built on "play with 4 other friends or bust", and its pretty confusing that the queue says "solo queue".

I dont want to have to wait for having X amount of friends on that you want to play with, all of them wanting to play at that given moment just so I can play "solo queue".

yksi1 votes

Who fucking cares it's a normal LOL

MrSlowDie1 votes

you are incredibly selfish, they just want to have fun with their friends in normal.

Gorsz1 votes

What about the people trying to practice in normal draft picks? So you're saying friends are allowed to dick around/troll just as long as they have fun which is at the cost of others?

No, THATS selfish.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Um ok so now playing with your friends makes you the target of toxic people? Man why cant you guys just play a different game, pretty sure Normals is meant to play with your friends to have fun (Draft or Blind) and Ranked is where you play to compete, you can even bring a friend but you gotta be a serious duo.

Gorsz1 votes

Blind is where you can dick around with your little online gfs on skype and laugh as they feed and do stupid shit like ghost/flash cait top.

Draft is srs normal mode thats supposed to mimic ranked games for training purposes.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Lol what? Says who? Playing draft with your friends to have fun or only thinking of your training demanding no one messes that up... one of those is more selfish then the other lol.

Draft mode may mimic ranked but it is not ranked, it is still Normals. Yes Normals draft is where the more serious people go, but there isnt a rule saying you cant go there to have fun or dick around. I think you just need to lighten up and remember its a game, continuing down this selfish path with a stick up your ass isnt going to get you anywhere in life :I. If you cant chill out playing a video game then there is something seriously wrong.

Gorsz

So you're advocating its ok for 3 people to troll around in a game because they're having fun with friends at the expense of two others?

People get mad over games all the time. In fact; its human nature when competition is concerned. A "video" game is still a game.

Stephenizgod1 votes

No its never ok to troll, but you didnt say they were trolling. You said they were playing with their gf who isnt very good at the game. That is not trolling, that is just playing with a friend who isnt good at the game, it might piss you off as it did but there is nothing wrong with it.

People do get mad over games all the time and that doesn't change the fact they need to chill. I get mad at video games all the time, but i dont go to forums and post about how everyone should cater to me. That is taking it too far.

Nuparu1 votes

You're not entitled to anything.

That's perfectly fine. If you want game restrictions, play ranked. If not, then deal with it.

It sucks to be plat and get matched against Master Is-Challenger players sometimes when I queue with people higher. So be it.

Deal with it.

Ungrateful Thug1 votes

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