Yasuo should have been an energy champ

Irelia Bot··206 votes·8,077 views

No it would not kill him if he was balanced for it but it would make there be limits to how much he can move around between minions before no longer having a wind wall open to him.

That is generally one of the biggest frustrations with him. He lacks any major periods where he is really vulnerable because of his actions.

EDIT: Did I mention he is Ionian? Yes this matters since only Ionians can use energy due to an unwritten rule.

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ModWulf Helhammer14 votes

Yasuo is fine.

And this is from a Xerath main

Irelia Bot34 votes

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Yasuo is fine.

And this is from a Xerath main

well Xerath is one of the mages who is not harshly hindered by his win wall. But try playing Lux or the likes against Yasuo and you will be feeling helpless against a competent Yasuo.

ModWulf Helhammer7 votes

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the only spell Lux has that gets blocked by Yasuo be the snare? Which, by the way, has a cooldown nearly twice the length? Lux's spells are also more forgiving on the landing, as they deal uniform damage no matter where they land, as well as her being overall much more safe then Xerath.

Trust me, if I'm playing against a really good Yasuo (I.E., better then me), then it hurts. Badly. But that's not Yasuo, that's the player's experience, same as if I went against an incompetent Yasuo as Xerath (it's hilarious btw, they keep trying to windwall your Q).

If your complaint is that Yasuo counters champions he is designed to counter well, then you don't have an argument.

Irelia Bot10 votes

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the only spell Lux has that gets blocked by Yasuo be the snare? Which, by the way, has a cooldown nearly twice the length? Lux's spells are also more forgiving on the landing, as they deal uniform damage no matter where they land, as well as her being overall much more safe then Xerath.

Trust me, if I'm playing against a really good Yasuo (I.E., better then me), then it hurts. Badly. But that's not Yasuo, that's the player's experience, same as if I went against an incompetent Yasuo as Xerath (it's hilarious btw, they keep trying to windwall your Q).

If your complaint is that Yasuo counters champions he is designed to counter well, then you don't have an argument.

Actually the only one not blocked is her ult. If you try to send the shield or Lucent Singularity through wind wall they should disapear.

Her ult on the other hand effects the area instead of being a projectile.

ModWulf Helhammer8 votes

Well then you don't throw out your entire combo when he has his shield!

Any Yasuo worth his salt will max windwall last, so up until level 14, it has a cooldown of 26 seconds. The only ability Lux has that gets close to that is her ult, and when you add in the fact that you are going to have CDR and he isn't, your abilities are on a much lower cooldown then the wall. So what you do is you poke him down (he can't windwall everything), and when you get him low enough, you bait out the wall, then when your spell is up again (and his still needs half the cooldown), you burst him.

If that isn't enough, add in "call jungler for gank" before the bait out the wall step. Have them come from the side (from the back and Yas can dash through him), so that Yas is forced to deal with blocking either your damage and CC, or the junglers.

IS1a442cd69a169ed293a396 votes

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Well then you don't throw out your entire combo when he has his shield!

Any Yasuo worth his salt will max windwall last, so up until level 14, it has a cooldown of 26 seconds. The only ability Lux has that gets close to that is her ult, and when you add in the fact that you are going to have CDR and he isn't, your abilities are on a much lower cooldown then the wall. So what you do is you poke him down (he can't windwall everything), and when you get him low enough, you bait out the wall, then when your spell is up again (and his still needs half the cooldown), you burst him.

If that isn't enough, add in "call jungler for gank" before the bait out the wall step. Have them come from the side (from the back and Yas can dash through him), so that Yas is forced to deal with blocking either your damage and CC, or the junglers.

When then you don't use your wind wall before Lux throw anything, simple. Lux doesn't bait out his windwall, Yasuo baits out her QE. You try to poke him? He dashes to you immediately. I really want to know how you get him low without running out of mana as Lux before mid game.

Call the jungle? If I recall, Lux is much more vulnerable to ganks. It is not really a valid argument if you need a jungle to babysit you till the end of laning phase.

EDIT: Oh and the fact that you said "only her Q can be windwalled" proved that you knew nothing about either Lux or Yasuo at all.

2Charmnot2Charm2 votes

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the only spell Lux has that gets blocked by Yasuo be the snare? Which, by the way, has a cooldown nearly twice the length? Lux's spells are also more forgiving on the landing, as they deal uniform damage no matter where they land, as well as her being overall much more safe then Xerath.

He can also block lux e before it lands.

IronwallJackson2 votes

Good Lux players detonate it before it gets into W range. I would know because those are the worst ones to lane against.

2Charmnot2Charm1 votes

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Good Lux players detonate it before it gets into W range. I would know because those are the worst ones to lane against.

You can detonate E before it lands? Never knew lux could do that.

IronwallJackson2 votes

That's a recent buff to her from just a few patches ago.

EcchiOtakuTM19 votes

i'm a lux main and yasuo is easy pickings for me..... People really need to pay attention to yasuo's kit and understand it's actually fairly easy to beat

One Bind Morgana10 votes

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i'm a lux main and yasuo is easy pickings for me..... People really need to pay attention to yasuo's kit and understand it's actually fairly easy to beat

i'm a decently high ranked lux/morg main

yasuo takes a massive steaming shit on both of them

Narasimha4 votes

If you're losing as morg, then mate, it's you. Yas can't stop her farming, his dash is predictable so it's easy to land well timed Qs, and her ult completely negates his. Hell, he can't even knock her up. It's not Morg's dream match, but its still fairly easy for her.

Lucifer3 votes

Actually, Morgana fails against someone who knows how to shove lane. She can't get many ticks off on her puddle, because the wave is constantly getting shoved to the turret. She's forced to AA under turret, and she has strict mana constraints Yasuo does not suffer from. A well played Yasuo will make that lane hell for Morgana, and he should end the lane with a CS and level advantage. Granted, it's hard for Yasuo to actually kill her, but he doesn't need to in order to win that lane.

Maximum Morde3 votes

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If you're losing as morg, then mate, it's you. Yas can't stop her farming, his dash is predictable so it's easy to land well timed Qs, and her ult completely negates his. Hell, he can't even knock her up. It's not Morg's dream match, but its still fairly easy for her.

I'm going to agree with you on all points except the Q. The only time it is easy to Q Yasuo is if he has already dashed to everything and can't dash and also has windwall down, is in your face point blank, or if you ult him first and wait for the stun before hitting with Q.

Ipols8 votes

You aren't a Lux main are you? What is your definition of "main"?

if playing Lux 13 days ago in one game makes you a Lux main, then I main a lot of champions. And people upvote you! WOW gj boards.

kaltenashes4 votes

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i'm akali main, and i've been playing lots of blind pick where i cant get mid (well i just fill, wait for everyone to choose their champs then i choose mine)

Redaga13 votes

range mages have advantages to yasuo, but as a whole yasuo still and incredible broken OP champ, I main Xerath and I still find incredible annoying that I have to waste a W on him to put down his shield so I can poke with Q

pripustas3 votes

You can take down his shield with aa. Stop crying about that shield. You have range. I would take range over that shield any day. His kit is made to punish ranged champs for being cowards. Get up close and personal against him, and if you're stronger you'll win.

Redaga23 votes

getting in range of yasuo with a mage why dont I just dive a tower and give em free gold too?

Knoyle21 votes

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Smitty Manjensen19 votes

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i'm a lux main and yasuo is easy pickings for me..... People really need to pay attention to yasuo's kit and understand it's actually fairly easy to beat

Checking your history it shows that you have more Yasuo games than Lux, so get rekt.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

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Checking your history it shows that you have more Yasuo games than Lux, so get rekt.

I play more lux then I ever play yasuo I only played yasuo often when he was released before braum now that shiv+warlord was nerfed he's balanced and easy to deal with as lux.

Smitty Manjensen17 votes

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I play more lux then I ever play yasuo I only played yasuo often when he was released before braum now that shiv+warlord was nerfed he's balanced and easy to deal with as lux.

Checking your history again tells me that is a lie.

leafboom3 votes

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i'm a lux main and yasuo is easy pickings for me..... People really need to pay attention to yasuo's kit and understand it's actually fairly easy to beat

How do you even survive the level 2 combo from Yasuo as lux? You have about 21 base armor and yas will just cut you in half mane. The problem is that when you rely on skill-shots to hit someone and they have a dash with a .1s cd, you'll never hit them, unless you're one of those weird ass lux players who buy lich bane into tiamat or some other shit

EcchiOtakuTM2 votes

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How do you even survive the level 2 combo from Yasuo as lux? You have about 21 base armor and yas will just cut you in half mane. The problem is that when you rely on skill-shots to hit someone and they have a dash with a .1s cd, you'll never hit them, unless you're one of those weird ass lux players who buy lich bane into tiamat or some other shit

You don't get hit by it, focus on farming to sustain your mana and slowly poke him down until he's dead or zoned off farm

The problem is lux players and alot of mages only try to farm champions, they don't focus on cs and slowly harass someone down instead nope just want to 100-0 someone from early

Yuri By Mail3 votes

Just pink ward the tornado, right?

Troll for Trump5 votes

Well try facing against him as brand. After lv 3 (sometimes 2) it's pretty crp against any Yasuo worth his salt. Windwall? There goes your only CC and your ult. The DoT still pops his shield which is nice, but it's BS how effective his windwall is. Kassadin should have that kinda stuff as an antimage with a genuinely weak laning phase, AND mana issues.

Anidan4 votes

And even then... nobody should have Windwall as it currently exists. I wouldn't mind if it weakened projectiles but let them pass (because wind can totally stop arcane missiles and bullets that effortlessly slice through the air, right?) in its weakened state, but completely invalidating them is just awful.

MasterSomething10 votes

This would have really helped. I think Riot at the time, however, was really trying hard to come up with something new and may have overdone it.

Irelia Bot8 votes

RITO PLS!!!!

MasterSomething12 votes

And unlike Illaoi, other than shutting him down hard early, he has little weakness unless you predict like a god. Illaoi Counterplay: MOVING. No, really, that's it.

Auz the Ripper4 votes

Illaoi's even nice enough to yell it at you

SpecterVonBaren7 votes

No, just CertainlyT design philosophy.

Imperial Japan3 votes

Just put energy on Yasuo's E Nothing else.

Imperial Japan7 votes

[{quoted}](name=C9 Kitty,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vahdgAQV,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2015-11-26T06:52:06.775+0000)

Just put energy on Yasuo's E Nothing else.

Also the only 3 that uses energy are part of that one ninja group. And Yasuo is a Samurai, not no peasant ass ninja.

Irelia Bot27 votes

[{quoted}](name=C9 Kitty,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vahdgAQV,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2015-11-26T06:52:34.286+0000)

Also the only 3 that uses energy are part of that one ninja group. And Yasuo is a Samurai, not no peasant ass ninja.

um.... Lee Sin.... Zed

My Waifu Vanilla34 votes

Akali....Kennen....Shen.....Zed.....Lee Sin..... 3=/=5 syntax error

PerishSoftly22 votes

"Five!" "Three sir." "Oh, er yes. Three!"

Cthułhu4 votes

I have a wife you know.. Know what she's called?

Crystal Rush4 votes

Incontinetia...Incontinentia BUTTOCKS

48983507DEL15 votes

"First thou pullest the Holy Pin.

Then thou must count to three.

Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three.

Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three.

Five is right out.

Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it"

-the Lord

Mecha MaIphite4 votes

4/5

Unless you consider Zed to be a tumour rather than a ninja

Xx420n0sc0p3sxX7 votes

[{quoted}](name=C9 Kitty,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vahdgAQV,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2015-11-26T06:52:34.286+0000)

Also the only 3 that uses energy are part of that one ninja group. And Yasuo is a Samurai, not no peasant ass ninja.

Lee Sin is not a ninja, but a monk. Yas using energy makes as much sense as lee using it

Can U AD See Me12 votes

Udyr is a Monk too QQ #Energyforallmonks #Udyrwantsenergy It would be a really nice ideas for udyr too have 200 energy with each active costing 60 energy and if two stance active effects are enabled at same time he regains 20 energy each sec as long as two stance actives are active

Valexfor2 votes

So, lee is not counted?... (Oh and ninjas are 4)

Imperial Japan1 votes

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So, lee is not counted?... (Oh and ninjas are 4)

Read my other reply

Valexfor2 votes

You forgot about lee and zed, I'm here just to point that out, I don't know what you mean by "read my other reply"

Knoyle3 votes

Kennen "What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Ionian Shinobi Acadamy..."

Imperial Japan3 votes

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Kennen "What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Ionian Shinobi Acadamy..."

Ill have you know i eat sushi on my off time

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