Ivern Question

I have Ivern, and I would test this out for myself, but I'm not at home right now so I'm not able to, so I ask my friends on the boards for help.

If you haven't already experienced this, I ask that someone try testing this interaction out and get back to me.

Shortly after Ivern was released on the PBE, I expressed my concerns with a seeming lack of invade-ability. ... that isn't a word. .... The enemy jungler can not sneak invade his jungle and Smite/last hit a camp out from under his nose. It is literally impossible, .. unless you're an enemy Ivern.

My thought was to resolve this by giving the enemy jungler the chance to smite a groved camp and clear it just like he can. Or maybe add some limits. Maybe they can only smite a fully matured grove. Maybe they only gain a decreased amount of gold and/or exp earned for it, or at least a massive amount of bonus damage, making it fairly easy to finish off afterward.

This would do two things,

1 - It would give the enemy jungler pretty much the exact opportunity I mentioned earlier.

and

2 - It would force Ivern to be a little less care free about leaving groves unattended.

Now, this WAS my idea, .. however, someone commented on that post, strongly insisting that Ivern already has some massive counter play related to this because when an enemy steps into the circumference of his grove, it is broken.

This is the part that I really need tested.

If this is true, then yes, there is plenty of counter play creating the groves cost a good amount of health and mana, and they take a decent amount of time to mature. To undo that simply by walking over them would be quite painful.

HOWEVER after thoroughly seeking YouTube gameplay videos and several board posts requesting to have someone on the PBE confirm this went completely unanswered, .. I still have no real proof that this guy did not just make it all up.

So I ask you friends, when stepping into a maturing and/or matured enemy Ivern's grove, does it break?

And if not, ... does something need to be done about this?

Would my Smite steal solution be helpful?

Photo and/or video evidence would be preferred if possible.