Dark Harvest vs Predator vs DeathFire Touch +AP from old runes on Karthus' Ult: some math

Disulfiram··5 votes·3,186 views

TL;DR Last season, the damage added by the runes was way over the top. This preseason, Dark Harvest is in a midway spot between last season and the old runes (at 0 souls).


Karthus' ult at level 18: No runes: 0 AP: 550 damage 350 AP: 813 damage 700 AP: 1075 damage

With the old runes/masteries (DFT+33 from scaling AP glyphs and AP quints)(DFT actually applied to every target, not just the lowest one, but let's ignore that here): +0 AP: 583 damage +350 AP: 889 damage +700 AP: 1195 damage

Last season, with Predator (the rune he used to take the last season): 0 AP: 730 damage, 25% more damage than DFT+old runes 350 AP: 1080 damage, 21% more damage than DFT+old runes 700 AP: 1430 damage, 20% more damage than DFT+old runes

Now, with the new Dark Harvest: 0 AP: 630 damage +5 per soul

  • needs 20+ souls to outscale Predator
  • needs 0+ souls to outscale DFT+old runes (8% more damage at 0 souls)

350 AP: 945 damage +5 per soul

  • needs 27+ souls to outscale Predator
  • needs 0+ souls to outscale DFT+old runes (6% more damage at 0 souls)

700 AP: 1260 damage +5 per soul

  • needs 34+ souls to outscale Predator
  • needs 0+ souls to outscale DFT+old runes (5% more damage at 0 souls)

6 Comments

Syanite2 votes

You forgot about my favorite Rune, Arcane Comet. :D

Arcane Comet : 700AP: 1315 Damage (If the Comet hits) Ult: 550 Base + (75% AP) 525 + (100 Base +(0.2AP)Comet) 100+140 = 1315

It is all very comparable which I think is fine, meaning you can interchange your rune setup depending on your matchup. I don't think there will ever be a "best" rune.. But i hope Karthus does NOT get nerfed because of this Dark Harvest BS..

Dark Harvest is a Great rune vs squishy targets as Karthus.

Predator grants you Great mobility to return to lane (Vlad lol) or roam to help other lanes.

Comet is a Great scaling rune which I love to play into Yasuo (When you have Luden's Echo it gets super annoying to lane against, as Yasuo will never have his passive sheild up and cannot all- in you or he will die to your E) -Also, when you are using your Karthus E in teamfights, Arcane Comet will reset every 5-10 Seconds depending on how many people are in your AoE as well as being hit by your Q.

Zeppelins circus1 votes

To be honest, a lot of Karthus players normally had aery most of them so it scales even low.

NepgearDesu1 votes

Doesn't Dark Harvest's damage increase by 8 per stack, rather than 5? I might have read the patch notes wrong.

Disulfiram1 votes

It was patched: 5 souls in Summoner's Rift and 4 souls in ARAM

FilDaFunk1 votes

Hasn't been applied yet, at least in the text, for ARAM.

Eleshakai3 votes

it was hotfixed, so tooltip may be inaccurate

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