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At least revert Veigar's Q....

Conturbatio··2 votes·1,289 views

Veigar is a Single-Target-Burst-Mage! Why are you turning him into a longer range poke mage? I can simply play Xerath or Vel'Koz if I wanted that type of playstyle. Revert its cooldown to how it was before patch 5.4 (8/7/6/5/4 instead of 7/6.5/6/5.5/5), reduce its range back to 650 and make it targetable!

Also, maybe increase its AP stacking to 2 AP on small creep kill and 4 on siege minion kill (don't change the amount of AP you get from champions). That would be a step in the right direction. For his E, I think reducing its delay to 0.60 from 0.75 would be nice (the cage would appear in 0.35 seconds after the cast animation from 0.5) Or just rework it completely if you nerfed it because of the Veigar support picks... (Give it a stacking system like Cassiopeia's passive, depending on his Q stacks, for example: 100 AP stacks: the warning/pop up delay is reduced to 0.5 from 0.75 200 AP stacks: instantly creates edges which stop dashes before the cage fully appears 400 AP stacks: the cage appears instantly (could be changed) P.S: his cage upgrades depending on his Q stacks NOT his total AP!!!

8 Comments

SmknWdl2 votes

yeah i have to say viegar's q is pretty lame right now... i played against a veigar recently and omg it's so useless... rito plz

OhOkYea1 votes

I hear what you're saying but Veiger is fine. If anything, the recent buffs were a bit too much. But I'd say keep the buffs anyway because they didn't make him OP. Veiger is one of the most well balanced champs at the moment, yet can still farm and carry with the best without be a no-skill freelo champ like he was before.

Conturbatio1 votes

No, in before he was basically a kill-then-die champion because he was a single target burst mage, but the current one is just bad, you won't be able to reach their ad carry or mid laner because front liners will take the Q damage and deal with you because you don't have a stun anymore. I played Veigar because he was about vengeance and destruction, and because he is known for his single target burst, if they change his style to a poke mage, then why bother keeping his name "Veigar" ?

OhOkYea1 votes

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No, in before he was basically a kill-then-die champion because he was a single target burst mage, but the current one is just bad, you won't be able to reach their ad carry or mid laner because front liners will take the Q damage and deal with you because you don't have a stun anymore. I played Veigar because he was about vengeance and destruction, and because he is known for his single target burst, if they change his style to a poke mage, then why bother keeping his name "Veigar" ?

Not my fault people don't know how to play him. I rek platinum scubs all day with veiger. He's fine.

Conturbatio1 votes

It's not about people who can't play him... It's about him being "VEIGAR".

Ralquez2 votes

according to match history going back to before patch 5.4, you haven't played veigar at all, so why are you trolling?

BuCkeT SeiZureS1 votes

He wrecks those beginner bots. Veigar is fine.

Hirok01 votes

(Give it a stacking system like Cassiopeia's passive, depending on his Q stacks, for example: 100 Q stacks: the warning/pop up delay is reduced to 0.5 from 0.75 200 Q stacks: instantly creates edges which stop dashes before the cage fully appears 400 Q stacks: the cage appears instantly (could be changed)

Personally, I find veigar to be in a really good spot after the 0.75 -> 0.5 buff. He is still about even in power if you ask me, but at least now when you face one you don't automatically hate how un-fun the matchup is regardless of the veigar's skill level. He was 'ok' before. He was easy to shut down by making him choose between stacks and trade. The Q change is helping to fix that while also toning down his click-to-trade bullying. The stun change was because that stun mechanic is very, very anti-fun. There is no room for counter play and it often means 100-0 or escape from certain death. Riot has said that they want skills to have both counterplay and optimal playability. Click-to-win skills are on the decline, as they should be. (doom-bot veigar passive anyone?)

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