Why do people complain about Kaisa so much when Varus does all the damage that Kaisa does

Hethalean··1 votes·1,326 views

but has actual cc. is it because she can 'move fast' and then hav ea super long cooldown dash?

Varus has all the damage and built utility that kaisa does, but has a way better lane ult (to win lane and team fights and everything really)

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Fear the Kayn3 votes

He doesn’t get a huge dash and invisibility, and she is inherently safer because of her ms boost.

Binding Eclipse2 votes

His damage isn't frontloaded into an instantaneous burst complemented by 3/4s screen travel, a gargantuan shield and invisibility to back it up.

Varus can be nasty, yes, but he still takes time to percolate and is much easier to keep from reaching potential.

Hethalean1 votes

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His damage isn't frontloaded into an instantaneous burst complemented by 3/4s screen travel, a gargantuan shield and invisibility to back it up.

Varus can be nasty, yes, but he still takes time to percolate and is much easier to keep from reaching potential.

His damage also isn't easily split like Kaisa's, has actual pre 6 CC AND better pre 6 damage, and has the safety of his ult.

Moody P2 votes

because Varus blows hot swampy ass until you get to like Masters

Hayaishi22 votes

Because Varus is garbage, in lane, in mid game, in late game.

Can't duel anything, is completely reliant on his ult to do anything, useless when behind, can't snowball for shit, easiest ADC to dive because he has 0 defenses and a low AA range for a an immobile champion.

MLDzXnRRR2 votes

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Because Varus is garbage, in lane, in mid game, in late game.

Can't duel anything, is completely reliant on his ult to do anything, useless when behind, can't snowball for shit, easiest ADC to dive because he has 0 defenses and a low AA range for a an immobile champion.

Why don't you check his AA range? 575... is NOT low.

Hayaishi21 votes

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Why don't you check his AA range? 575... is NOT low.

Is it tho? With Jax having 700 range gap closers and Irelia multiple dashes 575 range might as well be 525. There's even a bug where some champions (like vayne, MF) can hit Varus at his max range. You could reduce his range to 550 and it would make 0 difference. That bug has been there forever and Riot does not care

Brreezyy1 votes

Varus with some items can burst her down if he’s lucky but a decent kaisa knows how to play around it, the only champ id say to counterpick kaisa is xayah/ezreal which even then comes down to skill

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