Can someone explain Fighters and Slayers to me in toplane

Elohaven··1 votes·675 views

Fighters - Juggernauts/Divers Slayers - Assassins/Skirmishers

Why does Fiora Irelia Camille get to be as tanky as a juggernaut but dish out much more damage? I really don't understand. Shouldn't they be squishier in comparison. I feel Fighters should be able to abuse slayers in lane and bully them while outside of the lane these champions really show their strengths with some exceptions and outscale.

For example, all three of the above champions outscale a Fighter with one item.

When you think about it, shouldn't the class roles be like this:

  • Fighters/Tanks counter Slayers
  • Slayers/Fighters counter Marksmen
  • Marksmen counter Fighters/Tanks
  • Mages dish out AoE damage
  • Controllers support the team

Then you have very few niche champions that can shine in other areas but not as well as champions designated to that class. However, it's like Conqueror threw this whole system out of loop. Skirmishers are supposed to be heavily item-reliant like ADCs. To be honest, I think Yasuo is the best definition of a melee skirmisher because he's very item reliant compared to the rest. With their mobility, they should viable as ADCs as well.

How come we aren't going with this paradigm?

P.S. This is to incite discussion

2 Comments

SomethingAncient1 votes

First: I don't think Camille or Fiora have ever been truly tanky (but Fiora is terrifying with lifesteal that makes it seem like she's tanky). I don't know enough about Irelia to say anything about her yet.

Actually, shouldn't it be more akin to this (in theory)?

Tank: Good at deflecting damage and mobile. Has only enough damage to scare squishies 1v1. Juggernaut: Good at eating damage and has low mobility but cc to make up for it. Has only enough damage to scare squishies 1v1. Skirmishers: Good damage with some sustain, relies on mobility/lifesteal to stay alive. Fighters/Bruisers: Compromise; can either tank/juggernaut or skirmish, depending on item build, but not two classes at once.

Unfortunately that has never been the case, so Mundo, Illaoi, Kled, and others do lots of high damage I wish they didn't.

NemeBro1 votes

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Fighters - Juggernauts/Divers Slayers - Assassins/Skirmishers

Why does Fiora Irelia Camille get to be as tanky as a juggernaut but dish out much more damage? I really don't understand. Shouldn't they be squishier in comparison. I feel Fighters should be able to abuse slayers in lane and bully them while outside of the lane these champions really show their strengths with some exceptions and outscale.

For example, all three of the above champions outscale a Fighter with one item.

When you think about it, shouldn't the class roles be like this:

  • Fighters/Tanks counter Slayers
  • Slayers/Fighters counter Marksmen
  • Marksmen counter Fighters/Tanks
  • Mages dish out AoE damage
  • Controllers support the team

Then you have very few niche champions that can shine in other areas but not as well as champions designated to that class. However, it's like Conqueror threw this whole system out of loop. Skirmishers are supposed to be heavily item-reliant like ADCs. To be honest, I think Yasuo is the best definition of a melee skirmisher because he's very item reliant compared to the rest. With their mobility, they should viable as ADCs as well.

How come we aren't going with this paradigm?

P.S. This is to incite discussion

Fiora is the only slayer you mentioned, and none of those champions are as tanky as a juggernaut.

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