I am so hype for Galio and Warwick new visuals, really am i the only one?
can't wait to see them in new game-play and visual look
can't wait to see them in new game-play and visual look
What if I told you that the Commander of Salt CertainlyT himself was leading the Warwick update?
shoots self Ok, no ones going to have a good time in the jungle anymore
shoots self Ok, no ones going to have a good time in the jungle anymore
Well, they said they wanted Warwick to be a beginner champion so he is somewhat limited to what craziness he can do. Besides, even if he makes Warwick super strong, I wouldn't mind the wolf having some time in the meta.
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Well, they said they wanted Warwick to be a beginner champion so he is somewhat limited to what craziness he can do. Besides, even if he makes Warwick super strong, I wouldn't mind the wolf having some time in the meta.
They did say that they wanted to keep his skill floor low, but they also wanted to raise his skill ceiling, which also implies allowing him to do more in the hands of a practiced player.
Honestly, I don't care, all the champions that he makes are fun (to play as); there is no denying that all of his work is unique and dynamic, even if he's behind my main (Yasou) and also behind one of the champions I hate the most (Darius). I have high hopes for Warwick in the fun department. Balancing might be a whole other issue.
Well, Ashe is a beginner champ and was one of the most played at Worlds... so...
Complexity =/= strength Ashe is strong for the same reason Varus is strong- she's one of the only ADCs that has hard CC. That one fired ultimate can mean the successful start of a fantastic wombo.
Like say the enemy is a Cait + Karma botlane. Normally they're fairly slippery- against most ADCs. But one good CC from Ashe or Varus and suddenly they're locked down and free game for any other skillshots or combos. Like say the roaming Malphite that's coming up to the lane or perhaps Zack to come flying over the wall.
Right, I get that. My point is that 450 IP tier for champs doesn't mean they are weak. (could have said that better in my original post :/ ) That's all. Good points from you, though.
They wanted Taric to be a beginner champion, now he is almost op with coordinated team and "win more or lose more" with every other. Also his playrate dropped below every other traditional champion.
No, they wanted Taric to FEEL impactful is all.
and Fabolous ;}, well i liked him more in this new update, he is more fun to play even tho the old taric was soo broken, but being broken doesn't always be fun.
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Oh boy, looking forward to him having a global 6 second silence...
What if I told you that the Commander of Salt CertainlyT himself was leading the Warwick update?
Oh hell yeah
Yes you're the special snowflake.
I hope they make Debonair
look as dapper as his splash art.
i hope they make Gatekeeper Galio bigger and scarier ;}
Wow, and here we are in 2k17 with these 2 champs updated and Eve/Urgot reworks in the making. Seems like Warwick and Galio are a hit! How did Gatekeeper and Debonair come out for you? I find them to be neat skins - even got a Gatekeeper skin shard sitting in my Loot!
for galio?
visuals ok.
models? yes! no more pizza feet on hextech galio
rework.... no, they're effectively killing ap galio in the mid lane, riot wants him to be a tank in the mid lane (which is dumb, telling them now) like hard tank. tanky tank. not damage.
He might deal more damage with full ap items after his rework, and he would definitely be much more tanky with tank items that's what i really wanna see.
so long as he keeps +/- this much damage, im cool with it. even if its conditional or different scaling vs base, whatever. new skill shots? fine,
300 (+ 60% AP) 240 (+ 50% AP) 400 (+ 60% AP) + 40 (+ 6% AP) per hit up to 8x. ult is a must, no ifs ands or buts.
but we both already know hes getting gutted on damage to make him tankyer
what if he gets new passive makes him tankier already, keeping his q ultimate, new shield from w and gapcloser basic E that deals % to keep him strong even if he builds tanks, Ohh ya and q + ult scales with Magic resistance bonus of Ap ratio that will make him so interesting tanky vs mages
Like for example, Taric can get more damage from armor + ap, rammus can get more damage skills from ap and armor, Galio can use that but Mr scaling with aps on his q and ult, with overall a new interesting passive.
Like for example, Taric can get more damage from armor + ap, rammus can get more damage skills from ap and armor, Galio can use that but Mr scaling with aps on his q and ult, with overall a new interesting passive.
Tbh his passive scaling is awful when you then convert it to his regular ap scaling. His passive past his level 1 extra ap and the crazy Mr/ok ap you get from maxed w his passive is legit trash tier.
so long as he keeps +/- this much damage, im cool with it. even if its conditional or different scaling vs base, whatever. new skill shots? fine,
300 (+ 60% AP) 240 (+ 50% AP) 400 (+ 60% AP) + 40 (+ 6% AP) per hit up to 8x. ult is a must, no ifs ands or buts.
but we both already know hes getting gutted on damage to make him tankyer
I actually think he'd be neat as a 'magi-kinetic mage' where he is a golem powered by runes and his game play is you want to get hit. Kind of like how it is now. His current W and R is all about you wanting to get hit during that period of time and they can base something around that. But it's probably too late and going for sone cheesey turret based champ.
so long as he keeps +/- this much damage, im cool with it. even if its conditional or different scaling vs base, whatever. new skill shots? fine,
300 (+ 60% AP) 240 (+ 50% AP) 400 (+ 60% AP) + 40 (+ 6% AP) per hit up to 8x. ult is a must, no ifs ands or buts.
but we both already know hes getting gutted on damage to make him tankyer
The only reason he even has those damage numbers is to allow his kit to be even relatively viable. Witbout it, his current kit would suck. If his kit was improved, he won't need "tons of damage". As it stands, galio's Q has the highest base damage of any basic ability in the game.
anivia Q 「 MAX. MAGIC DAMAGE: 120 / 170 / 220 / 270 / 320 (+ 80% AP) 」 E 「 ENHANCED DAMAGE: 100 / 150 / 200 / 250 / 300 (+ 100% AP) 」
brand has mediocre bases but becomes the highest +/- passive
zilean Q 300 (+ 90% AP)
heimer rockets reaches 324base with 81% scaling assuming he hits all 5
max range nidalee spear.... 「 MAXIMUM MAGIC DAMAGE: 210 / 255 / 300 / 345 / 390 (+ 120% AP) 」
theres other stuff way stronger than all of galio.
galio does need the base damage to function, but you also have to consider he only has 3 damaging abilities one is a ridiculously long ult CD, unlike most other mages with 3 damaging abilities.
and riot already wants to give him some type of environmental, shielding, turret interaction, thats going to be an ability right there,
for galio?
visuals ok.
models? yes! no more pizza feet on hextech galio
rework.... no, they're effectively killing ap galio in the mid lane, riot wants him to be a tank in the mid lane (which is dumb, telling them now) like hard tank. tanky tank. not damage.
I want them to keep w and r. If they change everything else I'd be ok. Tbh. I'm excited for visuals...dreading rework especially that I'm only ok with poppy rework and don't really like yoricks. They both look fantastic... but still. And galio is supposed to be bigger than both of those..
I mean, a lot of tanks can do tons of damage in an ap build. AP Malphite is pretty legit.
I'm trying to hold my excitement for the Warwick rework, because he is my favorite Champ and if he plays like something that isn't... Warwick... i would be extremely sad...
Can't wait for them to reveal the reworks [slayer-pantheon-rainbows]
You're not the only one buddy. I can't wait for Warwick's rework and I'm also interested to see what they do with Galio.
If two different teams are working on their reworks, will both of them be released in the same patch?
It's highly unlikely. They like to split things up. Rework, new champ, rework, new champ.
Not counting the fact that Galio's rework started when the Yorick's one was released, while Warwick's was already in development.
Galio new visuals?
What happend with "Don't change what's good"?
oh he will surely get a better one i believe :D
Yeah along with total class change, cause why not, Right?
I don't trust rito one bit.
Im hyped for visuals.
Im afraid of new gameplay.
I hope they wont end up as new champions with the same names overloaded with some "funny", new mechanic that makes them imposible to balance.
Galio was one of the first champs I ever bought. I mainly played him as support when I had no real supports in my line up (along with Malphite). Seeing him get one of, if not the largest rework we've seen to date does warm my heart a bit.
As for Warwick, I'm an awful jungler. My pathing is just straight garbage. So, I'm not as hyped for him.
Im excited I just hope ww will be relevant again Ive always loved him but hes not very good rite now. And I feel like galio is good for certain teams rite now but his kit never really felt rite to me for a stone golem.
i exactly think the same way my friend :o, i want galio really to have his Stone Gargoyle Role, more tanky, too hard to brust, same way he can deal enough damage by building tanks for example has an ability like zac's w or maokai's w (% target hp is so nice to galio in a melee way), i would really love it in my opinion. and yes sure i am same way feeling to warwick i always love him but he is getting old and weaker
im a little hyped for
but i got mix feelings for a demacian...but then again i do love a few demacians
i love Shadow isles because of The death god Mordekaiser .
once nation has my heart..and its Noxus!!!
Just to make sure, expect yet another Ryze rework in between.
If it's anything like the updates from the assassin and mage update, no.
I am extremely hype for the Galio rework, tho i'm super biased cause demacia is my favorite in lore place and
are some of my favorite champions, as well as Galio as he is. The description we got was that they wanted to make him a mage tank that goes mid lane with heavy connections to demacia. i can dig it.
as long as they dont get sion'd im hype
Agreed