Can we have solo queue back

adidas·Sep 15, 2016·84 votes·2,781 views

i dont like the 4 man premade i fought twice in a row while i solo qued

Thanks

A league player who loves playing ranked

60 Comments

InfernoFøxSep 15, 20169 votes

Solo Q is back.. For Diamonds and up

Michael702Sep 15, 201613 votes

That doesn't help 98% of players.

InfernoFøxSep 15, 20161 votes

Yeah, but the amount of people who actually play ranked is minuscule to the confirmed 100 million players every month world wide

Very Hard EngageSep 15, 20164 votes

http://www.riotgames.com/articles/20140711/1322/league-players-reach-new-heights-2014

people who log into their client*

all time peak of 27million on at one time.

now divide up players between 11 different servers.

and now you see theres only about ~2.5million on who play 1 or more game per day.

now it takes 10 players per game, or maybe 5, if we can even count the players who play just bots

so now were down to 250,000~500,000 games per day per server.

riot announced that less than half of the playerbase is ranked at all. the rest could be arams, normals, bots, custom etc.

so less than 125k games of ranked per day.

divided over the 24hours of the day.... and games take an average of 35minutes....

so at most

2604 ~ 5208 ranked games being played at any given time.

more or less depending on prime time vs ZZZZZZ time.

pretty small when you think about it.

or would you like me to further break that up by leagues and divisions too?

InfernoFøxSep 15, 20163 votes

What is your point? I mean cute stats and all, what are you trying to prove?

Very Hard EngageSep 15, 20165 votes

that not nearly as many people play as you think they do. and there isn't a limitless supply of people to chose from, which also explains the concept of match making time vs match balance.

"well im silver, theres a ton of silver players, its the biggest league there is, why did riot pair me with bronze 1 and gold 5 players" which is all due to whos on at what time moreso than riot finding people closer to your rank.

it takes all the people who are clicking play around the same time as you, the longer you wait the further the system has to reach above and below just to start the match

riot places starting the match much higher than it does balance.

InfernoFøxSep 15, 20163 votes

i still dont get where youre going at

ChizzahSep 16, 20161 votes

Then you need to go back to school bruh lol what he says makes sense

333lomSep 15, 20161 votes

Is it possible that DynamicQ is actually Riot preparing for a large decrease in play, as time goes on?

GayFluffyUnicornSep 15, 20162 votes

Thank god i ranked to diamond yesterday. Now we only need to get rid of those boosted harambes

NiyxSep 16, 20162 votes

DuoQ for D5-Master only challenger is solo.

The Fuzzy 0neSep 15, 20168 votes

That and dynamic q has made the amount of smurfs boosting increase dramatically

Inquisitor KaneSep 15, 20166 votes

They said they are going to change rankeds for S7 and it smells of true soloQ and team rankeds. I have my hopes high and fingers crossed.

I would not mind having dynamicQ enabled for specific times... because then I'll knew when NOT to play rankeds. As long as it won't be enabled ever day.

Very Hard EngageSep 15, 201619 votes

riot already announced it will keep dynamic queue, you're just on a different ladder than they are.

but you still play with pregroups and you still have mmr equivalencies to justify them getting paired with you.

"but the button you'll be pressing is solo q"

Inquisitor KaneSep 15, 20164 votes

{quoted}

riot already announced it will keep dynamic queue, you're just on a different ladder than they are.

but you still play with pregroups and you still have mmr equivalencies to justify them getting paired with you.

"but the button you'll be pressing is solo q"

So basicaly nothing will change just the text on the button? That's wome k8nd of BS, right?

Do you have any article or video about this that you can link to me, please?

Very Hard EngageSep 15, 20163 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgE3QJ9zA9I

http://ask.fm/RiotGhostcrawler/answers/140217432715

http://imgur.com/a/vEAjb

http://imgur.com/a/qUVBp

its all tentative ofc, might change, nothing in stone, yada yada.

Inquisitor KaneSep 15, 20165 votes

Thanks a lot for the links.

From the looks of it it's the same BS they promised us this season, but worse. Because ranked games are going to be the same only borders would be different.

GJ RITO -_-

High5Sep 15, 20166 votes

Sounds like WoW. We'll give you a 40 man and a 15 man raid option.

LoL was fun when it was a pick up and play game. It got old very quickly as soon as it became a "you need to join a guild" game.

My solo $ weren't as valuable as a pre-made's $$$$$ I guess.

$$ drive all decisions no matter what the founders say. I get it's a business, but the business decisions now outweigh all game decisions.

GayFluffyUnicornSep 15, 20167 votes

So nothing changes at all. Good to know. where is the sense behind being on a different ladder when your mmr is still defined by those shitty dyna match ups?

Very Hard EngageSep 15, 201612 votes

they'll justify it by saying it gives both players what they want.

they can be boosted, they can still play with their friends. but they wont contaminate the ranked ladder. you can still have your rank, its fair for all solo's too because they also have to put up with the same exact nonsense that you do too.

but what riot wont admit to is pregroups still destroy games and make it impossible to work with one another, regardless of having a 50-50 at winning.

IF A PREGROUP HAS A 50-50 AT WINNING EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY QUEUE UP, WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE SOLO PLAYER???, HES ALSO RELEGATED TO HAVING A 50-50 WITH THAT SAME PREGROUP.

invalidating his skill and capabilities.

and making it harder for the solo player to climb up based on talent.

MonkeyMadnessSep 15, 20169 votes

So how does this solve anything? All this will do in practice is make it even easier to identify the boosted monkeys (and it's already pretty easy). The argument was not only that DQ ruins the integrity of the ranked ladder, but also just straight up ruins the game. Games against premades are just less fun. What's even less fun than that is having to deal with players that get boosted to shit and can't hold their own at whatever level they are currently at. DQ is cancer, get rid of it.

Very Hard EngageSep 15, 20168 votes

it fixes the solo ladder somewhat as you wont be losing your place to someone who hasn't earned the rank.

but at the same time it accomplishes nothing in terms of balance or fairness for the game.

im all in favor of a balanced match over any formal rewards, borders, role selection, time. I play ranked because i want a GG with a bunch of tryhards, were all in it to win it. but riot doesn't see it that way. to them ranked is just another game mode.

after all less than 50% of the playerbase is ranked.

MonkeyMadnessSep 15, 20167 votes

Then that 50% should be ignored when Riot does polls on DQ. But they don't, because riot thinks that DQ affects normals and ranked in the same way. And if riot really does think that ranked is "just another game mode" they wouldn't have acknowledged the DQ problems at ANY elo. The fact that they are removing it for diamond + but not in lower elo ranges is honestly just morally corrupt on so many levels, and makes 0% sense from a fairness, or even practicality standpoint. Now, trash boosters will get to diamond, and they will have no premade to lean on. In all reality, they will likely get demoted solely due to their required games to avoid inactivity.

333lomSep 15, 20163 votes

I can't seem to remember, but, was it possible in the past, when SoloQ was still active, to queue as any number of premade players in a normal game?

If that was the case, I don't see a single reason for DynamicQ to be implemented in ranked ladder, which was supposed to be a clear measurer of individual skill. If people wanted to play together, they could have just gone normal.

MonkeyMadnessSep 16, 20163 votes

That's what we've all been saying for the past year brah. But Riot either doesn't hear us, or they just don't care. Probably a bit of both.

Darf RakkiSep 16, 20161 votes

I think a big part of it boils down to Riot's own opinion of playing dynamic queue themselves. its easy to like it when everyone you work with plays league, and finding a good premade to play ranked with is as easy going on lunch break with some peeps from work.

MonkeyMadnessSep 16, 20162 votes

But they have thousands of people telling them that the reality is far from their ideal little sheltered world literally every day with posts like these. It has gotten to the point where Riot is either outrageously incompetent, completely uncaring about its player base, or just downright retarded. And the fact that they removed DQ in diamond+ is just downright messed up. They acknowledged ver batim every complaint we had against DQ ruining competitive integrity, but then only preserved it for ~1% of the community. It's like they don't understand that there are actually millions of non-professional players here...

Darf RakkiSep 16, 20161 votes

Well the good news is removing it from diamond probably means they will eventually get around to fixing it for everyone. First step to fixing a problem is admitting you have one, and I think they did just that with reverting to solo queue for diamond.

MonkeyMadnessSep 16, 20164 votes

BUT THEY HAVEN'T ACTUALLY ADMITTED IT, THAT'S THE THING.

They are placing the blame for the failure of DQ on the competitive nature of the community, not their blatant oversight in how bad shit would be. The only thing they've ever owned up to is that queue times sucked, and occasionally matchmaking would get fucked. They NEVER acknowledged that the principle of DQ is wrong. The only admitted fault with its application, and this means it will be a VERY long time before we see any real improvements at lower elos.

MrWasjigSep 16, 20161 votes

Oh they heard us (DynoQ Roundtable), but they don't care (again, see the roundtable). They claimed they would fix it, they admitted it was fucking awful....but didn't change it.

I'm utterly convinced they're buying into the sunken cost fallacy, because that's the only reason I can see as to why they're keeping this bloody awful Q system in place.

MonkeyMadnessSep 16, 20161 votes

sunken cost fallacy

Please explain, I'm not familiar with this concept.

Also, the Roundtable discussion made me laugh more most sitcoms.

Scara: DQ ruins competitive integrity Socrates: Well actually, we are working to reduce queue times at higher ranks Gbay: [slayer-jinx-unamused]

MrWasjigSep 19, 20161 votes

To make my life easier: Wikipedia

"In economics and business decision-making, a sunk cost is a cost that has already been incurred and cannot be recovered."

Inquisitor KaneSep 16, 20162 votes

{quoted}

I can't seem to remember, but, was it possible in the past, when SoloQ was still active, to queue as any number of premade players in a normal game?

If that was the case, I don't see a single reason for DynamicQ to be implemented in ranked ladder, which was supposed to be a clear measurer of individual skill. If people wanted to play together, they could have just gone normal.

But kids these days claim they wanna have fun in rankeds with friends. And that they dont want to play normals.

And since kids have parents who pays for their RP..... Rito yelded.

I will post my opinion about fun in ra keds when i come back home from work.

Michael702Sep 15, 20166 votes

Most of my friends quit at the beginning of the season because of dynamic queue. I quit about a month ago. I stuck around hoping Riot would bring back solo queue. I guess I'm the ~~dummy~~ optimist of the bunch. O well. Was fun while it lasted.

LatetotheRaceSep 15, 20162 votes

I would check back late next pre-season. We can only hope at this point.

GayFluffyUnicornSep 15, 20163 votes

Yup my friendslist is so fuckin empty since the last post about SoloQ being completely scapped and still nothing comes from riot about that issue. I even wonder where all those soloQ posts went. Did riot delete? Or did people become too lazy to post about?

LankPantsSep 16, 20161 votes

I even wonder where all those soloQ posts went. Did riot delete? Or did people become too lazy to post about?

People were drove away from the game by Riot's shitty system. It's really not that hard to work out.

Dominick DestineSep 15, 20163 votes

Diamond allows only 2 players max queuing together.

It truly is elo heaven.

xelakerSep 15, 20163 votes

I'd gladly wait longer for solo q, then quickly get my 4 man premade boost party

Arsenic SulfurSep 16, 20161 votes

The year is 2036, xelaker is still waiting at his computer of SoloQ. To this day he is still there, clinging to denial.

wiggywonkaSep 16, 20162 votes

bruh ur gold 5 those two are prob the last time ur against a premade

KetiSep 15, 20161 votes

Duo with keti

adidasSep 15, 20161 votes

{quoted}

Duo with keti

keti are youfrom tera

KetiSep 15, 20161 votes

No I would never play elin archer

ChizzahSep 15, 20161 votes

Why can't dynamicq be for ranked teams (whole squad together or when some are missing only 2 or 3 will que up). This way players who are used to being co-ordinated can play together and those who are used to being co-ordinated can have soloq.

Additionally, have three ladder namely: Prestige, Team and Solo. Team and solo ladders will show the rank of their repective ques while prestige will show where you are ranked overall regardleas of which que you prefer.

This I believe is the best way to give everyone what they want (including Riot). When incomplete team ranked que together (example 3 members of team red and 2 members of team blue because the rest of their respective team members are not online) have the ranked points split between them in a 3:2 ratio.

Have team ranked games net more points on prestige than soloq or vice versa to find the best balance you want. Or don't its really up to you.

Just my thoughts on the matter.

sdsdfdfSep 16, 20161 votes

holy shit ull get solo queue next season, and if u get good and climb u can get it now. gosh this community

Inquisitor KaneSep 16, 20165 votes

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holy shit ull get solo queue next season, and if u get good and climb u can get it now. gosh this community

You get jack shit my friend. Even though you click SoloQ button you will play with dynamicQ players who que as team of 2,3 or 4. Basically same sht as you have now just the button says soloQ instead of dynamicQ.

sdsdfdfSep 16, 20161 votes

no. u will play with them but they will have different ranks, which will automatically cause much less premades

Inquisitor KaneSep 16, 20161 votes