Don't understand why Leblanc of all champion got a revert.

LegendmakerGX·8/28/2018, 5:06:47 AM·45 votes·14,077 views

Shen/Malz?? Why not these who were nerf the the ground for pro players?

Shen not once has been above 50% winrate after his rework but he was constantly nerf because the obvious pro players using him in LCS/LCK/EULCS. Malzahar yes was strong with his new rework but was nerf constantly too that he is rarely any good other then root a enemy for his team to kill.

So what I don't understand is why of all people leblanc gets a revert while Shen still sitting it crap tier is not allow a rework when he is constantly nerf?

Riot:"We don't balance base on pro play!" <

45 Comments

TheKingOfBiches8/28/2018, 5:22:41 AM55 votes

Because lebroken players had to actually use their brain cells when playing her.

Mizuhashi Paru8/28/2018, 10:11:28 AM27 votes

Because reddit cried enough and LB Mains were complaining that their champ actually required to use their brain instead or W > R in TFs.

Blåbæret8/28/2018, 9:14:06 AM17 votes

Idk why people complain about LB when you have shit like AD assassins running around who doesn't even need to hit their combos to kill you.

crippler388/28/2018, 5:25:43 AM11 votes

I like current Shen though, I find his playstyle to be entertaining and rewarding.

Neptunia xoxo8/28/2018, 11:37:26 AM9 votes

Why is Malz even brought up though? Malz was and still is unfun and uninteractive to play against.

Warlord Rhinark8/28/2018, 1:43:44 PM6 votes

I still want my Galio revert.

PaffWasTaken8/28/2018, 2:18:33 PM5 votes

Because a balanced Leblanc isn't balanced in the eyes of Leblanc mains, who clearly want to see the world burn

Automated Riven8/28/2018, 5:30:19 AM4 votes

Leblanc was reworked into a less healthy version of herself. (tbh the other two were also) but the community didn't get as upset.

French Courtesan8/28/2018, 3:35:31 PM3 votes

Because leblank rework was fundamentally a failure. Let me explain from biased leblank main point of view. Reworked LeBlanc got her Q proc moved to her passive with 1.5 second delay. This was supposed to even out her power and her weakness. Her power being, increasing her TTK to give you room for counterplay and her weakness being giving her better wave clear. On paper it sounded good. However in reality this achieved these things :

  1. Procing her mark was made completely braindead, all she had to do was dash on you, apply passive and then press Q from range. Most mid laners had no possibility of countering this, other than flash. Which is coincidentally literally same thing you guys are complaining about now. So that didnt change anything, only made her more noob friendly so you could see more of her. Compared to old leblank where she had to Q first and then either dash in straight line right into her target, which was highly predictable and counterable. Not easy to do but possible. Other option was hitting mark with her chain. That spell had its width nerfed so heavily that only skillshots with comparable width are nids spear, which travels much further, and kalistas Q which isnt all that important. If she missed, not only she just didnt deal any damage to you other than using her first Q(which is in most cases maxed after W) she just wasted a lot of mana. If you dodged her E, you literally out traded her with your auto attack.
  2. Gave her wave clear. Old LeBlanks biggest weakness was her lack of wave clear, this is why you maxed W first so you can kill wave and roam. After rework she could max Q and still clear whole wave in two spell casts without sacrificing her ult for full clear. This made decisions to roam much easier for players that werent so experienced, while made nothing to players that either camped mid and just pushed or were already good enough at the game in general that they did not need this tool at all. It only gave them more power early game.
  3. Gave adcs precious TTK to trade with her. However this went only two ways. Either LeBlank was so ahead, this change did not matter at all and with easier passive procing only made killing adcs even easier, or when they were both farmed equally, leblank just lost. Doesnt matter how good you played her, all adc had to do was right click on you and you couldnt engage without dying in process. This buffed smurfs abusing LeBlank in low elo, buffed bad players and HEAVILY nerfed actually good leblank mains.
  4. Her ult change was uncalled for and completely broke the vibe of her. Any LeBlank main stopped playing her at all since rework, only to come back after rewert. And the main issue was her ult. It was clunky to use especially since she was always the kind of champions where pressing your buttons as precisely and fast as you can made the difference between good leblank and bad one. Most people literally spammed her clone out of cooldown just to not fuck up their combo by pressing ult twice by mistake. It almost felt like riot wanted you to fail by implementing this mechanic.

So TL:DR, rework made leblank more noob friendly, so she was picked even more, made her laning even more unbearable, absolutely decimated her purpose as adc slayer, and mostly heavily nerfed good leblank players. There are literally handfull of good leblank players in each region and while you keep complaining about those 12 good players getting carpal tunnel every time they play her, fizz is sitting on 54% win rate in diamond + with linear near uncounterable kit. Nice focus guys nice focus.

floo8/28/2018, 1:46:40 PM2 votes

Add Rengar to unnecessary reverts.

warmcorntortilla8/28/2018, 8:53:57 PM2 votes

The sad truth is because people played old LB, and didn't like new LB. People barely played old Malz or new Malz, so who cares? Why bother? We're never getting our mains back. [zombie-nunu-tears]

RainXBlade8/28/2018, 9:02:15 PM2 votes

Honestly, they should just gut her. A lot of people hate playing against Leblanc in the first place because of how fast she both kills and escapes people. Not even things like Maw and Banshee's can save you from her high burst.

Akaśhí8/28/2018, 7:30:58 PM2 votes

Because LeBlanc is assassin who has to kill you quickly but when she got reworked you had to wait for the Sigil to be ready causing delay in assassinating but even tho this doesn't mean Riot has to revert her they had to just simply change her kit reverting is not the solution... just like Rengar they reworked him he had to use his brain to get kills and everyone stopped playing him and why they reworked his Q, well I don't think It is fun game when an Invisible Predator jumps on you with Q and instantly kills you with just that proccing statikk shiv... they ended up reverting rengar too now he continues one-shoting with Q's this time with Duskblade and Stormrazor what a great idea riot ...

Athenes Lulu8/30/2018, 4:17:58 AM1 votes

People cried hard enough that they can't instantly burst so they got back what they wanted.

Support Position8/28/2018, 2:46:17 PM1 votes

Aatrox Katarina Galio Evelynn I agree. I dont get why she got the revert either.

mack91128/28/2018, 6:31:11 PM1 votes

Her rework did not accomplish it's intended goal. It was supposed to create this opportunity of counterplay when facing leblanc but all it did was remove all kill potential from her kit. I play only immobile mages mid and even I can see that.

LTK KoRo8/28/2018, 7:19:26 PM1 votes

It's pretty easy tbh. pre-rework LeBlanc: fun for player, unfun for the enemies post-rework LeBlanc: unfun for player, unfun for the enemies.

Basically rework solved nothing and removed a lot of fun from LB mains, so they just rolled it back for sake of LB players.

KNÍGHT8/28/2018, 9:12:23 PM1 votes

Because she was like a multi tasking machine... too much going on at the same time...

try to imagine having azir's soliders and each of them would be controlled separately

GreatWhiteNorth8/28/2018, 9:18:34 PM1 votes

Old leblanc is more fun to watch is why.

HaIlMonitor8/29/2018, 12:38:15 AM1 votes

The rework failed is why....

AirKingNeo8/29/2018, 1:46:10 AM1 votes

yeah cause reverting shen or malz will really fix their ultimates being toxic as fuck

Toru Itai8/29/2018, 4:28:21 AM1 votes

Yeah!! Where’s my Sion Revert!!!

Larriet8/29/2018, 6:10:36 AM1 votes

I don't disagree she shouldn't have been reverted (she's definitely a lot scarier now), but I dislike the comments saying LeBlanc players just hated her for requiring skill. I don't agree she takes less skill now; I don't play assassins, but people disliked the assassin update because she felt clunky, not because she was "hard". Most assassin players like more difficult mechanics, is my understanding.