Riot Doesn't Understand Yorick (or Monsters)

Korica Riftaxe·8/24/2016, 10:38:33 AM·265 votes·11,851 views

It says in the rework post that you thought the main reason Yorick was underplayed was because he was an ugly gravedigger, really? Did you lose the data showing his huge popularity on release, that he was considered a top Pick/Ban in Ranked, until he got nerfed into the ground because his kit was too hard to balance? You said the same crap about characters being "ugly" with Urgot, Trundle and Skarner too. Have you never heard of Pudge? He's a giant ugly mess who literally has guts spilling out and an ability called "Rot" which just surrounds him with deathly stink, but he's been one of the most popular Heroes in Doter since FOREVER because he has solid, fun gameplay and is well-balanced.

People aren't skipping out on playing your ugly monsters because they are ugly monsters. Plenty of people LIKE ugly monsters. But what they like more is balanced and competitive gameplay, and for some reason, you always seem to give your ugly monsters terrible kits that are hard to balance, so you nerf them into obscurity and then blame their looks.

Also, that new W ability? That's not a "wall of corpses", it's a circle of lampreys. Those are giant worms with teeth, not corpses. I know you are afraid of showing dead bodies for fear of angering your Chinese Overlords but at least give the spell an accurate description.

But I guess it shouldn't surprise me that you are squeamish about aesthetics since you robbed Graves of his cigar. Cowards.

PS: Why is Flash still in this game?

323 Comments

ModWulf Helhammer8/24/2016, 10:43:22 AM27 votes

WTF even is this post

XxXGwanXxX8/24/2016, 3:52:12 PM18 votes

"because he was an ugly gravedigger,"

Can people not take a joke now ? Obviously they know he had multiple problems IT'S WHY THEY REWORKED HIM.

They just made a joke on his appearance because, let's be honest, he's an ugly gravedigger lol. Let jokes be jokes, don't take them as serious problems.

Glaedonx8/24/2016, 3:32:55 PM16 votes

This post reminds me of having a fight with your girlfriend/wife and she just throws everything you've ever done to piss her off right in your face even if it was 10 years ago. Lmao.

Meep Man8/24/2016, 3:47:10 PM13 votes

Focus on the topic at hand. What you said about the ugly monsters is correct, but you kind if rambled off at the end.

Battlecast Sona8/24/2016, 5:39:51 PM12 votes

are we really complaining about this rework? They kept the creepy/dark/grimdark look for him (it's just thematically appropriate instead of "oooh, creature from the deep!") and they kept the ghouls/summons while giving him more to do than just "every ability works the same way but summons a slightly different ghoul."

This rework is so amazing and you're gonna find a couple of weird little visual things to complain about? HE LOOKS LIKE A GIANT TOMBSTONE WHILE HE'S WALKING AROUND. HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY BE COMPLAINING ABOUT HIS DESIGN.

ThePikol8/24/2016, 11:23:50 AM11 votes

I would upvote you but then you started with cigar and Flash...

Wyrmblade8/24/2016, 3:36:41 PM9 votes

Your main point is great, but the other points you're trying to tack on with the lampreys and the cigar and flash are dumb.

YJRBqwXJcS8/24/2016, 11:11:58 AM9 votes

riot don't care they just want your money. also yorick's w is trash its jarvan's ult without the damage

and we all know how useful his ult is at keeping people inside of it.

Tobias Brackner8/24/2016, 7:20:54 PM8 votes

WTF even is this post

You are complaining that the spell "Wall of Corpses" doesn't look corpse-like enough for you? Really?

arrowhead21k8/24/2016, 7:08:16 PM6 votes

Obviously, you can't take a joke. If RIOT really wanted to change champions because they are ugly then there should be reworks for DrMundo Singed Urgot Twitch Fiddlesticks . RIOT can't seem to make a joke now without somebody whining about it on the boards.

MonkeyMadness8/24/2016, 9:06:24 PM6 votes

PS: Why is Flash still in this game?

Because if they remove flash they will have to redesign virtually every champion and item in order to keep the game from falling into utter chaos?

Other than that though I completely agree with your post. This is a classic case of Riot blaming their community for their own mistakes and telling us that WE are somehow the problem that they have to work around.

Mirkhail8/25/2016, 12:38:39 AM6 votes

Yorick being a gravedigger wasn't the problem, the problem was yorick being only a gravedigger. His kit was all about necromancy and it didn't have nothing to have with graves digging while his lore was only about graves digging and not necromancy. He wasn't a really a good character as only a grave digger, they could have Expand his lore but they instead changed his theme, similar thing to what happend to poppy , taric , sion.

Rozzeta8/25/2016, 10:30:03 AM5 votes

"Yeah, so we called the champion cancer for the game, did not give him any skins or add him in the weekly free rotation for years, but the reason it was underplayed is totally because he was ugly, guys" - Rito 2016.

I actually await when they try to say the same thing about Urgot in a potential rework, when they intentionally nerfed him again and again so he could no longer be used as a counter to the AD carry bot lane (back when Riot needed to speed up the game, and enshrined the ADC into the mandatory damage dealer role). There was a patch, I think around Hekarim era, in which they gave him a buff that put him back in bot lane, and was reverted less than a week after.

dEAdbUs8/25/2016, 9:58:22 AM5 votes

We have super cool galaxy-eater-dragon, and nobody plays him. Nuff said.

redfeenix8/24/2016, 9:31:20 PM5 votes

PS: Why is Flash still in this game?

I think we should just give Flash to all champions for free (like recall). That way each game players can actually choose 2 summoners as was intended, instead of just choosing 1 and flash.

quasistellar8/25/2016, 1:14:44 AM4 votes

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It says in the rework post that you thought the main reason Yorick was underplayed was because he was an ugly gravedigger, really? Did you lose the data showing his huge popularity on release, that he was considered a top Pick/Ban in Ranked, until he got nerfed into the ground because his kit was too hard to balance? You said the same crap about characters being "ugly" with Urgot, Trundle and Skarner too. Have you never heard of Pudge? He's a giant ugly mess who literally has guts spilling out and an ability called "Rot" which just surrounds him with deathly stink, but he's been one of the most popular Heroes in Doter since FOREVER because he has solid, fun gameplay and is well-balanced.

People aren't skipping out on playing your ugly monsters because they are ugly monsters. Plenty of people LIKE ugly monsters. But what they like more is balanced and competitive gameplay, and for some reason, you always seem to give your ugly monsters terrible kits that are hard to balance, so you nerf them into obscurity and then blame their looks.

Also, that new W ability? That's not a "wall of corpses", it's a circle of lampreys. Those are giant worms with teeth, not corpses. I know you are afraid of showing dead bodies for fear of angering your Chinese Overlords but at least give the spell an accurate description.

But I guess it shouldn't surprise me that you are squeamish about aesthetics since you robbed Graves of his cigar. Cowards.

PS: Why is Flash still in this game?

C'mon, man. Don't sugar coat it. Tell us how you really feel!