Is vayne op?

MunchCrunchLunch·Nov 2, 2015·2 votes·861 views

now I never fought a vayne. but the combo of range and high physical damage. is just pure crazy. I mean max her attack speed and critical strike stuff and her basic attacks would be CRAZY. shes basically a yasuo with range and speed. everytime a vayne on my team. the other team loses. she literally carrys the whole game HARD. HARD. its not even close. one basic attack of her and thats 25% of the enemy's health I mean honestly shouldn't you sacrifice some damage for range and mobility?

she has the Highest damage scale along with fiora tryndamere and yi and shes ranged. I mean. shes low on armor and health but. for real man she has range she has no business in getting down and dirty like yasuo or jax. and she outdamages both of them.

yes am ready for the downvotes. "actually ," insert champ name "is not op because", insert the most situational condition ever = am wrong.

14 Comments

Mr Broken WingsNov 2, 20152 votes

No she is not that op how people make her. People just tend to circlejerk and talk bullshit...exactly like you in this thread. No logical arguments made, just " LOLOL FACEROLL EASY PEASY". Shit like this should be removed as spam.

MunchCrunchLunchNov 2, 20151 votes

you are the one providing no information. you are trolling. riot is not perfect. I mean isn't it objective to say she has more damage potential than yasuo and mobility and she has range too. I mean isn't that objective?. she doesn't even need to use her abilities to be as deadly as any champ in the game.

why does every post saying this guy is weak or this guy is op gets downvoted. so its neither way. its always " oh its right on the money". are you telling me every champion in this game is balanced? if i literally make a thread about every champ. twice one saying hes op or hes weak. I would get downvoted for every single one of them. and you and i know some champs are way better than their positional counterparts.

Mr Broken WingsNov 2, 20151 votes

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you are the one providing no information. you are trolling. riot is not perfect. I mean isn't it objective to say she has more damage potential than yasuo and mobility and she has range too. I mean isn't that objective?. she doesn't even need to use her abilities to be as deadly as any champ in the game.

Yasuo has a lot of aoe damage spells, she has only single target spells. His damage potential is actually higher while also providing more cc and more survivability and utility in his kit, only her single target damage is higher and only in hyper lategame situations. ( powerspikes exist, surprise) She needs to use her abilities, more then other ad carries actually, against popular belief she isnt complete freeelo and needs practise. Jinx would be a good example for an aoe damage champion with insane damage potential who is played with little effort ( her downside is the mobility when unable to kill things and can be counterplayed by avoiding walking into her aoe aas, again not op, context is everything!), vayne is not. You just didnt think AT ALL while you made this thread, only some bullshit " LOL SHE HAS HIGHEST DAMAGE AND DOESNT TRADE ANYTHING FOR IT" and threads like this are made here everyday and it gets anoying with time.

MunchCrunchLunchNov 2, 20151 votes

all of these are near useless come end game. AOE? c'mon yasuo dies near instantly in team fights and hes the last champion you want against more than 1 enemy. hes too squishy.

Mr Broken WingsNov 2, 20151 votes

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all of these are near useless come end game. AOE? c'mon yasuo dies near instantly in team fights and hes the last champion you want against more than 1 enemy. hes too squishy.

No. Just no. And thats the reason why arguing with you is pointless. As I said, threads like this are not useful at all, I can provide as much counterarguments as I want at the end its just " useless" and "unnecessary" and vayne will oneshot everything with half an autohit. Thats why I didnt bring good points in my first post, thx for exactly doing what I have expected and wasting my time. If you want to make discussion threads then learn how a proper discussion works first. I am done here.

MunchCrunchLunchNov 2, 20151 votes

all I see is typical forumers comments. you're wrong. am right. I am just going to say you provide no evidence. I do but am not going to tell it to you. thank you

f that man.

darkmatchwaldoNov 2, 20151 votes

item 3087 item 3078 item 3742 item 3035 item 3143 item 3006 isn't too squishy to hop into a teamfight. If you have a malphite/other knockup that can start off the fight you can ult, dash around, get some good damage off, hop out, then hop back in to clean up the fight. Sure it may not deal a crap ton of damage like his glass build, but i'd much rather stay alive for the whole fight rather than instakill their ADC and then die.

MunchCrunchLunchNov 2, 20151 votes

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Yasuo has a lot of aoe damage spells, she has only single target spells. His damage potential is actually higher while also providing more cc and more survivability and utility in his kit, only her single target damage is higher and only in hyper lategame situations. ( powerspikes exist, surprise) She needs to use her abilities, more then other ad carries actually, against popular belief she isnt complete freeelo and needs practise. Jinx would be a good example for an aoe damage champion with insane damage potential who is played with little effort ( her downside is the mobility when unable to kill things and can be counterplayed by avoiding walking into her aoe aas, again not op, context is everything!), vayne is not. You just didnt think AT ALL while you made this thread, only some bullshit " LOL SHE HAS HIGHEST DAMAGE AND DOESNT TRADE ANYTHING FOR IT" and threads like this are made here everyday and it gets anoying with time.

you have a 75% elise win rate. is that normal?

alasarcherNov 2, 20151 votes

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you are the one providing no information. you are trolling. riot is not perfect. I mean isn't it objective to say she has more damage potential than yasuo and mobility and she has range too. I mean isn't that objective?. she doesn't even need to use her abilities to be as deadly as any champ in the game.

why does every post saying this guy is weak or this guy is op gets downvoted. so its neither way. its always " oh its right on the money". are you telling me every champion in this game is balanced? if i literally make a thread about every champ. twice one saying hes op or hes weak. I would get downvoted for every single one of them. and you and i know some champs are way better than their positional counterparts.

Vayne is strong champion and strong duelist, only ADC that can beat her 1v1 is actually Draven. But thing about Vayne is that she is EXTREMELY difficult to play. It takes long time to master, and even when u master her, if u dont do everything PERFECTLY, u will die. I read once somewhere from one of challenger ADCs, that when you play Vayne you have to project fight in your head. You have to know which skillshot or ability is coming next, u have to decide which ones should u tumble and which one u dont have to. You have to make decisions in split seconds. She is extremely risky pick and easily countered. Now issue with people crying about Vayne is they are trying to 1v1 her and lose from obviously mechanically advanced player, but they cant accept that they failed, they blame it on champion. Also they very rarely pick pink ward so she fucks with their mind easily. There isnt really any OP champion that guarantees free win, its all about player skill. If player is better than you, he will beat u no matter if he plays ADC Vayne or ADC Soraka. And if you are better player than Vayne u can beat him easily with any champion even with AD Alistar.

Before comments "ohmigod Vayne is izi to play". Vayne isnt easy, masters make her look easy to play.

Unlucky Number7Nov 2, 20151 votes

whenever someone calls vayne easy i get sad because i've played over a hundred games with her and i can't figure her out. All other adcs come easy, Vayne is realy hard to use.

MunchCrunchLunchNov 2, 20151 votes

I never said that she is easy. but skill gap should not make you OP. skill gap makes champions equal to others that have lower skill gap. you're telling me that your skill should unlock more potential in some champs and not for other people in others?

HOW ON EARTH DOES A RANGED AD CHAMP OUTDAMAGE A MELE AD CHAMP. HOW. AND HAVE MORE MOBILITY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE BRO?

does that sound balanced to you? it doesn't to me. it really doesn't. she is literally a master yi with range and more relevant better abilities and ultimate. would yi be balanced if he could launch his sword from a mile away just as fast as he attacks with the same damage.

just think for a second. and then replay. and her skillgap is way lower than other champs that people consider hard to use. shes not a top tier skillgap champ yet she is a top tier damage+range ad champ.

ZileanUltJesusOPNov 2, 20151 votes

I literally didnt even have to look at your profile to know you are either not even level 30 or bronze 5

Daddy DariusNov 2, 20151 votes

You are so hypocritical it's not even funny. You keep saying how people are just gonna say "Oh no you're so wrong lol jajajajaja", but you do the same thing to them when they actually provide information to you on how she's not OP. Vayne isn't completely freelo, she needs some practice and understanding to be good with her. You know what can easily kill a Vayne? Anything with high burst and/or a stun. She's squishy enough that your mid laner could 1v1 her (Annie, Ahri, Yasuo, Zed, Lux /w ult, Anivia, VelKoz, Brand, and Veigar). And that's only mid laners. She also got nerfed so her early game is even worse, punish her for that. Also, someone mentioned that she only has single target damage, which means if you focus her during team fights, she should die.

darkmatchwaldoNov 2, 20151 votes

You've never faced a vayne? o.0 how?

She's not as OP as everyone makes her out to be. Sure if you try and 1v1 her she's gonna kick your ass cause that's what she's designed to do. Force her to switch targets and her dmg output drops severely. Or just play Talon Rengar Zed and kill her before she can even proc her 3rd AA.