What I dont like about new Swain

Oakleaf Ranger··3 votes·972 views

Been a Swain main for quite a while and there are quite a few things that need to be addressed.

  1. Buff his ultimate

When I heard they wanted to increase his cool down in exchange to grant him greater moments of strength and more moments of weaknesses I agreed that was a fair trade off. Swain gets a more common cool down range in exchange for an even stronger birdman monster form. Well only one half of that idea has been realized and its not the stronger monster bird man form part. New Swain's ultimate sucks way more than he previous one and has a much higher cool down to boot. The sustain is medicore as is the damage over time. People arent even afraid for the most part of getting out of its damage radius because of how little damage it does. The healing is so bad that just being half focused on in a fight and your probably dead.

Get rid of the lock out on the cast of his ultimate. This is probably a symptom of his ultimate being mediocre but I think this needs to reduced or removed. So many times I die mid cast of ultimate as I'm smashing my zhonyas and it feels SO BAD. I'm going from 80%-100% health to zero before I can even do anything with my ultimate and I cant even save my ass with this item 3157

.2. Lower his mana costs or at least his Q's

New Swain is just as mana hungry as old Swain but this might be even worse. Old Swain got mana back on anything that he killed but the new one only grants mana back on Q. This skill has been relegated to basically farming only as trying to harrass doesnt seem worth the mana cost unless I can get point blank on someone to shot gun blast their face. In which case I'm probably eating their full combo as well.

.3. Buff his AP ratio's

His damage blows. If you buff his base damage you risk creating tank Swain again or something like tank ekko. Something nobody liked and ended up taking multiple nerfs to fix. Theres an issue when someone feels the need to take gathering storm (a rune that almost no one takes because of how garbage it is) in order for their damage to remain relevant. So yah buff his ratio's so nobody has to take that useless rune to do damage in the mid to late game.

.4. Something to maybe consider, is to buff the heal from his soul fragments.

This one is iffy and might not be an issue if all other things before hand are fixed. Just something to maybe consider. It would certainly help with coming out ahead of trades in the laning phase at least instead of get chuncked just as equally bad or even losing on the trade when you land your full combo.

9 Comments

Jesus Is My King1 votes

fuck no, swain legit 1v5 my whole team alone. just build ap bull shit and you win. gg. wp

nelogis1 votes

Pls post a clip of that "1v5"

Jesus Is My King1 votes

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Pls post a clip of that "1v5"

i wish i could, i can, i can replay it. but it takes 4hrs to upload this because my internet is actual shit.

nelogis1 votes

you don't need to upload the whole gameplay, just like the 20 seconds the fight was going on

Kevin7111 votes

Yeah I hate the new cd on his ultimate I feel like his old ult was so core to his unique playstyle. I feel like tank swain is going to be the new way to go with this guy like how singed ended up with garbage ap ratios. Honestly old swain had more sustain through his ult.

Iręlía1 votes

Hes really underwhelming

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

I wonder if people are forgetting to Q during ulti. It's a very spammable ability, and half the greatness of R is that it helps you stay in range for many, many Qs.

I've also been testing out resolve secondary on runes so I can get access to Revitalize. Since you mentioned buffing that healing, try that out and see what you think; I think it's under-appreciated at the moment.

Oakleaf Ranger1 votes

I find Revitalize to be more of laning rune and feels pretty weak past that. Plus going down resolve tree means I have to sacrifice damage on him which is already feels lack luster. Assuming I'm not already dead mid cast of ultimate as I'm smashing my zhonyas key, I am constantly using Q. But unless i have decent amount of CC from my team supporting me (or I finally got Rylias), I'm throwing out max range Q which does insignificant damage for the most part.

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