Sion won’t max q first in a competitive setting when it’s damage is as unreliable as it’s cc.

kasfas·6/4/2018, 2:47:04 PM·3 votes·1,722 views

Riot. Firstly, thanks for gutting my main. I love how I’m now reduced to playing waveclear simulator 2018 whenever I try to enjoy league. It’s so interactive to max q and buy titanic hydra just so I can insta-clear waves and not interact with my lane opponent at all because my e does shit all for damage and my q won’t hit any competent opponent, and therein lies the problem.

As pretty much any Sion main knows, Q max isn’t a viable strategy against competent opponents. One hard cc or a dash and you’ve lost the trade. Sion’s q doesn’t do enough damage in a 1v1 sceenario to bother using it, unless the target is slowed, and it’s useless while in melee range because it’s so easy to interrupt or avoid.

Sion won’t ever max q first unless he has a good reason to get a faster charge q off on his enemies and give him more time to reposition, or alternatively if he can altogether prevent people from dashing/blinking around his q, or interrupting it. At least one of these things is necessary to make q max viable.

Personally I’d prefer if it just had more of its damage ramp up in the first second of the charge, thus giving him more damage while in lane, while preserving the cc as it is to incentivize longer charges while in teamfights.

Riot, please take into account that Sion’s q isn’t reliable enough to bother maxing first when you try to balance him, because I’d prefer you not gut him again because of LC$ which no one cares about.

And btw, thanks for reducing his main abilities damage by 30%. I wonder how hashinshin would feel if you reduced jax’s attack damage by 10%.

12 Comments

Marshbouy6/4/2018, 2:49:58 PM3 votes

49.25% winrate, 3.2% playrate isn't gutted. That's "maybe a tad underpowered, but not demanding any immediate attention."

Suck it up and deal with it.

Hethalean6/4/2018, 3:13:56 PM2 votes

Q isn't too hard to land. Fully charged Q is though.

Spoofghoul6/4/2018, 7:12:01 PM2 votes

Which is why i will keep posting the solution to the unreliability of Q max problem, it's kind of a big post so ill just leave the link to the thread instead.

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/4L1MBqlM-riot-request-for-3-more-changes-to-sion

Ill just repost the thread every now and then since it's hard to make it stick on front page for lack of actual Sion players :S