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Part of the reason ADCs feel so overbearing, is because theres two champions who make them like that

Hópe··2 votes·397 views

An ADC is just that, An ADC. Twitch Building Infinity edge + hurricane alright hes scaling and strong. Better watch out

The real fucking problem isnt the adcs themself

Its these things Janna Lulu item 3190 item 3504, Imagine first time spike, When you fight an ADC, You're eating an adc with an extra 40 ad + 10% ap from Jannas E, and 10% - 30% (based on target's level) attack speed and 5 - 20 (based on target's level) bonus on-hit magic damage from ardent censor.

Im basically trying to say these two supports have been way too overbearing and nobody seems to notice?

I mean think about it, No seriously think about it. How many games have you seen where an adc was literally unkillable by all means necessary

Janna has had a 53+% win rate for over what a year now?

I know i know, i'm going to eat some massive downvotes but my opinion is my opinion

Still dont believe me? Hey man thats all you everyones entitled to their own opinion and im just a bit frustrated.

Just watch this. Please. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHp95KO8en4

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Dead flag blues6 votes

Lucian You mean when this guy was also in the meta and basically a ranged fighter ?

KogMaw Or also this guy being able to 1v5 with 3 items not so long ago ? (When he was able to have 5.00AS)

Jinx Or when she's in the meta is basically right click lord when she gets a single kill during a tf ?

Varus Or this guy either being Kog'maw 2.0 or AD Xerath ?

Corki Or this guy being a one-shot machine and replaced mages mid because he could basically do their job 2 times better ?

Caitlyn Or this girl who can 2 shot you if you walk on a trap and was dominating teamfights thanks to her 2k+ crits ?

Vayne Or this girl who is supposed to be a tank shredder but is basically a ranged assassin ?

Ezreal Or this guy breaking tons of items because he can abuse them, being broken and ruining other classes after the removal / gut of this item ?

The class itself is a problem, stop fooling yourself

Edit : Lmao downvote without explanation. You know this is true

Hópe2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dead flag blues,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uiIwzbMm,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-01-28T18:42:45.607+0000)

Lucian You mean when this guy was also in the meta and basically a ranged fighter ?

KogMaw Or also this guy being able to 1v5 with 3 items not so long ago ? (When he was able to have 5.00AS)

Jinx Or when she's in the meta is basically right click lord when she gets a single kill during a tf ?

Varus Or this guy either being Kog'maw 2.0 or AD Xerath ?

Corki Or this guy being a one-shot machine and replaced mages mid because he could basically do their job 2 times better ?

Caitlyn Or this girl who can 2 shot you if you walk on a trap and was dominating teamfights thanks to her 2k+ crits ?

Vayne Or this girl who is supposed to be a tank shredder but is basically a ranged assassin ?

Ezreal Or this guy breaking tons of items because he can abuse them, being broken and ruining other classes after the removal / gut of this item ?

The class itself is a problem.

Ah so every marksmen is a problem and we should delete the class because you hate them all. Alright

Dead flag blues3 votes

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Ah so every marksmen is a problem and we should delete the class because you hate them all. Alright

No, I'm just stating that the class has always been problematic and each of them were broken once. People need to stop saying that it's the supports who are broken. You know my facts are true since you probably also played during these periods.

Hópe3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dead flag blues,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uiIwzbMm,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-01-28T18:51:18.666+0000)

No, I'm just stating that the class has always been problematic and each of them were broken once. People need to stop saying that it's the supports who are broken. You know my facts are true since you probably also played during these periods.

Every champion in this game was ''broken once'' nearly every point you made can be said about every champion in the game...

Mãmbã1 votes

There are plenty of champions in every roll which are problematic, mainly because their kits do too much, they have very few weaknesses. It's not that a champ shouldn't be strong, it's that they shouldn't be strong at everything and there should be very clear and available counterplay options other than having the jungle camp whatever lane said problematic champ is in relentlessly lest they lose the game.

Hópe1 votes

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There are plenty of champions in every roll which are problematic, mainly because their kits do too much, they have very few weaknesses. It's not that a champ shouldn't be strong, it's that they shouldn't be strong at everything and there should be very clear and available counterplay options other than having the jungle camp whatever lane said problematic champ is in relentlessly lest they lose the game.

Im not sure where you're going with that though. My point is to say with the current power level adcs are at, supports are making them excessively strong in certain situations

see Janna Kog Janna twitch Janna vayne, or replace Janna with Lulu. Jannas play rate is through the roof and is playing a big part in why adcs are too strong to some people.

Sujiren2 votes

So much truth in one post.

Ralanr3 votes

Honestly my problem with support is that they feel so much more connected to the ADC then the rest of the team.

Rabblerouser2 votes

That video was before the Ardent nerfs, by the way. Lulu and Janna still kinda need to build it, though. Or are you only going to be happy when Ardent reaches item 3056 Ohmwrecker levels of inviability? At this point, people are waging some war against "traditional" supports, it seems.

Ardent's received nerfs to be more of a later build and not a rush item since that video, by the way. But it STILL deserves its place in the game.

Hópe1 votes

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That video was before the Ardent nerfs, by the way. Lulu and Janna still kinda need to build it, though.

And supports have been giving nothing but buffs ever since.

Rabblerouser1 votes

Also, I will definitely tell you another part of the reason they feel overbearing is that these people who are supposed to take risks in a fight while being the team's non-cooldown-reliant sustained damage (my favorite word of the day!)... they weren't taking as much risks with the item 3097 Targon's botlane giving them shields on shields (literally! Overheal shield on top of Targon's passive shield and since Targon could heal when taking minions, that heal got added to Overheal shield!).

You'll notice... ADCs didn't really get nerfed much this last patch. Ez was NEEDING a nerf since he abused Klepto so hard. Vayne.. well... Jury's out on that one.

Nerfing Targon's may have nerfed ADCs but ADCs had no darn business building Targon's in the first place! ADCs in every sense of the word abused Targon's and ruined the item for another class that it was meant for.

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