I'm talking about this, https://i.imgur.com/Lipnwv2.png
Do not give Rioters another reason to hate visiting the boards, if hes not talking about fucking game balance, do not bring that shit up
wildfox9957 votesespecially because rioters work in indipendent and separate teams which don't know anything about the others work,so it's even useless asking them
no to toxic32 votesArt Riot:Hey here is the art Skin Riot: But we already made the skin Art Riot: How? Skin Riot: Well we haven`t seen you in 3 months so we thought they fired the entire art apartament
Nut on my Butt2 votes[{quoted}](name=no to toxic,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VGTsRfx3,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-01-20T17:47:00.715+0000)
Art Riot:Hey here is the art Skin Riot: But we already made the skin Art Riot: How? Skin Riot: Well we haven`t seen you in 3 months so we thought they fired the entire art apartament
Definitely explains all of the inconsistencies with the Eve skins and their Splash arts when the rework was revealed.
GayFluffyUnicorn6 votesYeah that's how companies work.... They are all imprisoned in a high security cell, never see the light of day or any other room, don't know coworkers at all. They then get transported blindfolded back to the bus bringing them home.... Yes you maybe shouldnt ask someone from the skin team about keystones but dont act like what i just described
Jet Sett17 votesThe type of hounding people do isn't vague enough for Rioters to answer unless they're directly related to the question, so stop being foolish. The Art team isn't gonna have all the information about Swain's fucking base stat growth, or future Vayne nerfs, they're the Art team and they probably don't stop working on upcoming projects and promotional media.
DarkKatalyst1 votesYou mean to say Rioters are individuals, not a collective mind and that asking one is not like asking all?
wildfox992 votesYou mean to say Rioters are individuals, not a collective mind and that asking one is not like asking all?
The type of hounding people do isn't vague enough for Rioters to answer unless they're directly related to the question, so stop being foolish. The Art team isn't gonna have all the information about Swain's fucking base stat growth, or future Vayne nerfs, they're the Art team and they probably don't stop working on upcoming projects and promotional media.
this
for example someone from the art team doesn't know what the balance team is planning because he doesn't work directly with them (he's not employee in balancing so it's useless asking him)
art team do the art,balance team buffs ADCs and supports balance the game
Lios Ashenblade19 voteslol i was thinking the same thing when I read that, my first thought was "Not the place man..."
If they constantly feel persecuted on the boards, they will stop checking them man, let them share their love for the game with the rest of us, there will ALWAYS be changes we don't exactly like but it is what it is, gotta adapt and deal my friends
Kaìju5 votesThey interact on Reddit much more. Lots of top posts usually have a comment or two, even just memes.
Marshbouy3 votesI can confirm this because I spend a mild amount of time on r/leagueoflegends
The reason is that there is approximately 100 or more times more users on r/leagueoflegends, so they can reach much much larger amounts of people when they comment.
Glory to God4 votesAlso the fact that reddit has usually way more diverse posts and there aren't 7 posts on the frontpage about "Vayne should be deleted from the game because I say so" makes reddit a way cozier place for rioters to talk with people.
xelaker2 votes98% of the reddit posts are memes lol.
TotalJerk1 votesMemes are specifically banned from the league subreddit, actually. Have you even been there?
xelaker1 votesOk memes was a poor choice in wordage. Joke related, may have been better. Of course right now it's all pro scene stuffs since the matches are going on.
I have been surprised at the recent trend of more balance related stuffs tho.
XDDD1 votesIt sucks since they took a poll and over half of Reddit mains bot so the other roles don't really get much of a voice.
For example, there are like 6 posts on the front of the balance boards about top lane sucking ass but if you dare post that shit on Reddit, you have to deal with a horde of ADC Supp mains downvoting you. Hashinshin's probably the only one that can occasionally get it to the front.
Disembark3 votesBecause Hash actually makes some good points and is constructive???
Maybe the stupid ass rageposts that reach the top of boards is a problem with the boards. I for one am happy that posts made with 2 braincells aren’t at the top of reddit
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Centralize23 voteslook its the guy from the picture, still getting downvoted to oblivion I see [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Knalxz3 votesOMG nice catch.
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oh look it's the dude that has no idea what a bruiser is... please tell me what is a bruiser? funny how you speak about boosted players when you are a boosted player yourself
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at least you admit that you are boosted
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aww how cute, someone has learned how to type words
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love how people constantly prove my points. Nonstop.
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a gold 5 player that knows more about the game than you do
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sure you are
Chromatic Eagle5 votesI agree, but shouldn't you blot out their names? Naming and shaming is against the rules.
RocketRelm22 votesBlotting out the names would be worse. This is a riot comment barely half a day old, and the forums have easy trackers for those. Most people will graze over the names (because who cares?), but if you censor them, suddenly people might go looking and try to remember.
HalcyonDweller2 votesIt's different circumstances than in-game behavior.
BubbaV3 voteshave you seen what they've done with this game? lmao
ChuShoe3 votesOh my god I've seen so many posts like the one in that image. It's not even just Riot employees, I've seen mods get called out for something incredibly unrelated to the post-topic and it's not only rude ,but also cringy.
Please stop trying to hijack a post that a Rioter makes and make your own post/thread about it. No, your complaints aren't invalid, but there is a time and place for everything. One of them is NOT in a reply to a rioter comment about a completely separate subject.
LordGeovanni2 voteshey guy what is your special today.: Idk dude im just a dishwasher. * Fired * Idk sir I just was dishes let me get some one who can answer that for you. * allowed to keep the $2.70/ per hour you make *
Saucy Sells19 votesBut they’re not dishwashers, they’re employees for a video game company. Their job involves a lot more than that of a dishwasher so they can’t be expected to know or ask what a game balance employee knows, because Riot (and probably the employees as well) would rather have them focused on art or whatever else their actual job is.
Magical Zoe5 voteshey guy what is your special today.: Idk dude im just a dishwasher. * Fired * Idk sir I just was dishes let me get some one who can answer that for you. * allowed to keep the $2.70/ per hour you make *
This is entirely different...
LordGeovanni1 votesNo its not when you work somewhere and a customer asks you a question even if you cant answer it yourself you point them to another employee who can or you call that other employee to the customer.
HalcyonDweller3 votesIt's not their job to share information with us, the fact that they visit the forums at all puts them leagues ahead of most other game companies. Don't ruin it by taking frustrations out on them when they can't or won't talk to you about what you want them to.
LordGeovanni1 votesSo you want a community around your product but dont want to communicate? Boards for games are primarily to communicate with the company and then with the community of the game.
Tomoe Gozen2 votesRioters don't have it in their job description to post on the boards, reddit, twitter, etc. Their communication is solid, it's always us who decide that any type of communication Riot tries to open, we shit on it and call it bad. One thing is to give feedback, the other thing is to deny there's any communication happening and how you want more but are never specific about what kind of transparency you'd like to see in the future.
And take note that just because you want some type of communication, it also doesn't mean it's possible to give you exactly that. Being a company and all, you can't have the secret sauce because League isn't an open-source project built with its community. We can surely influence in what way it evolves but to think that we can solely decide on the direction the game is always going to take.
LordGeovanni1 votesIt is bad because they go and pick out fun questions for themselves to answer while ignoring issues with their game that people like you say leave them alone they will get around to answering it just wait until pre seasons, mid season, worlds, next preseason. But you guys never go on the boards front page and make a post that says riot doesnt owe any one any answers on any of their balance questions because then if any of the community took what you said as fact they would drop this game so hard and you would go back to season 6 dynamic que match making times
HalcyonDweller2 votesThey are individuals, members of this game community, and players themselves too. They are allowed to participate in memery and discussions about lore and characters that they love, just as much as you and I are allowed to do so.
Don't shit on them for acting as individuals, rather than as representatives of the company. You can't expect them to interact with people when posts are circulating with titles like, "Fire X, give us his head on a pike! >:O"
If you want good interactions and transparency with Rioters, start by treating them like fellow human beings. They deserve the same common decency that you and I would expect from each other.
LordGeovanni1 votesThey are individuals, members of this game community, and players themselves too. They are allowed to participate in memery and discussions about lore and characters that they love, just as much as you and I are allowed to do so.
Don't shit on them for acting as individuals, rather than as representatives of the company. You can't expect them to interact with people when posts are circulating with titles like, "Fire X, give us his head on a pike! >:O"
If you want good interactions and transparency with Rioters, start by treating them like fellow human beings. They deserve the same common decency that you and I would expect from each other.
I never said anything that lead to that they cant comment on things not related to balance only that balance questions should be forwarded to people who can and should answer those questions. you came up with that all on your own.
HalcyonDweller1 votesI never said anything that lead to that they cant comment on things not related to balance only that balance questions should be forwarded to people who can and should answer those questions. you came up with that all on your own.
You implied that asking them questions unrelated to their role or even the topic at hand is okay, and that they should take time out of their day to pass each question they receive along to the appropriate person. I have several issues with this implication:
Do you have any idea as to how many players respond to Rioter posts with balance, gameplay and design question? The amount of time and effort it would require for a Rioter to take in order to process and pass along every question they receive would completely detract from any fun or benefit they could have had from participating as a community member in a meme's discussion.
There are already places to ask questions like that. Usually several times a week, Meddler makes a gameplay thoughts post where he fields questions from the player-base. He doesn't get to every question, but he reads a lot of them and if he has information or knowledge that he can freely share about such questions then he does do so. It's still a scramble to get a response but that's more due to the volume of replies rather than due to Riot not wanting to respond.
LordGeovanni1 votesYou implied that asking them questions unrelated to their role or even the topic at hand is okay, and that they should take time out of their day to pass each question they receive along to the appropriate person. I have several issues with this implication:
Do you have any idea as to how many players respond to Rioter posts with balance, gameplay and design question? The amount of time and effort it would require for a Rioter to take in order to process and pass along every question they receive would completely detract from any fun or benefit they could have had from participating as a community member in a meme's discussion.
There are already places to ask questions like that. Usually several times a week, Meddler makes a gameplay thoughts post where he fields questions from the player-base. He doesn't get to every question, but he reads a lot of them and if he has information or knowledge that he can freely share about such questions then he does do so. It's still a scramble to get a response but that's more due to the volume of replies rather than due to Riot not wanting to respond.
like i said if xxx is not your role like any other person working at any other company. 'xxx is not my role i will get some one more suitable to look at it' issue solved and you have more communication between riot and the community and riot gets to find out what people like/ dislike or better for them they get to explain to the community why they do what they do even though people can see its gonna be counter productive before announced changes hit the pbe. people go on game play posts that are rarely answered and some times ask lore questions and you know what happens some magical how lore and creation rioters end up answering their questions either cause the look out or because it was referred to them it doesnt happen all the time but it happens more than the other way around.
HalcyonDweller1 voteslike i said if xxx is not your role like any other person working at any other company. 'xxx is not my role i will get some one more suitable to look at it' issue solved and you have more communication between riot and the community and riot gets to find out what people like/ dislike or better for them they get to explain to the community why they do what they do even though people can see its gonna be counter productive before announced changes hit the pbe. people go on game play posts that are rarely answered and some times ask lore questions and you know what happens some magical how lore and creation rioters end up answering their questions either cause the look out or because it was referred to them.
When a Rioter comments on a Memes & Games post, they aren't acting as an official representative of the company.
When you treat them like they are but they are not, and you expect / demand that they act as a representative of the company, you make the boards a less welcoming place for them. You push them away from us, and you make them come here less often. Stop doing that.
They do pass around posts to read, but they aren't going to tell us every time they do that. It's silly to expect that of them since they do it anyways. You commenting off-topic on an unrelated post is completely irrelevant to that. Don't try to use it as an excuse.
LordGeovanni3 votesWhen a Rioter comments on a Memes & Games post, they aren't acting as an official representative of the company.
When you treat them like they are but they are not, and you expect / demand that they act as a representative of the company, you make the boards a less welcoming place for them. You push them away from us, and you make them come here less often. Stop doing that.
They do pass around posts to read, but they aren't going to tell us every time they do that. It's silly to expect that of them since they do it anyways. You commenting off-topic on an unrelated post is completely irrelevant to that. Don't try to use it as an excuse.
If you not acting as a representative of the company get that red and riot off your name. Sure if they say something offensive on a memes and games post there will be public out cry and thus corporate punishments because they are rioters representing the company riot else when you just refered to them you would call them something else referring to their humanity not rioters which are accessories of the company riot. My point isnt that they cant have down time but they still using their privileged riot account get those comments somewhere where designers and the balance overlords can see and respond to them. all they have to do is ad a simple tab that has options like Archive for design team, Archive for balance team, Archive for memes and games team.
HalcyonDweller1 votesIf you not acting as a representative of the company get that red and riot off your name. Sure if they say something offensive on a memes and games post there will be public out cry and thus corporate punishments because they are rioters representing the company riot else when you just refered to them you would call them something else referring to their humanity not rioters which are accessories of the company riot. My point isnt that they cant have down time but they still using their privileged riot account get those comments somewhere where designers and the balance overlords can see and respond to them.
They can't help that the boards is not really supported by Riot. Wuks and the other volunteers work pretty hard but they don't have the time and resources to make every change that would be good to make. And the Rioters themselves don't have influence over whether or not the names are red or are prefaced with Riot. Heck they may even be required to use only the Red accounts when interacting with the community.
All this is besides the point though. If they are not coming into a discussion planning to talk about gameplay or balance, it is not okay to try to force them to talk about it later in that discussion. You're essentially demanding that they talk about what you want them to talk about, but they are free individuals, with free will, and demanding anything of them is absolutely totalitarian and unfair.
all they have to do is ad a simple tab that has options like Archive for design team, Archive for balance team, Archive for memes and games team.
I agree with you on this, and I think it's a good idea to implement. This is a fantastic idea and I think that you should make a post giving a rough outline of how it would work. If you do, link it in a reply to me farther up this chain (we might be out of reply space) and I'll come upvote and participate in the discussion.
