Why Nerf Alistar Again?

Funkin Dunkin··2 votes·879 views

This nerf completely takes him out of any solo lane, regardless if it's mid or top. You've literally taken a champ who could play any lane (kinda jungle) and put him 100% into support role period. Why are you so hell bent on putting champs in specific roles?

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The Sword Saint5 votes

Alistair is bullshit to lane against when he's viable solo. His 'trading pattern' consists of him knocking you up, autoing you, and then headbutting you half a screen away for a thunderlord proc and zero chance of retaliation every time it's off cooldown, followed by him healing up and pushing the wave to your tower - meanwhile if you ever try to trade with him when he doesn't want to, he knocks you up and headbuts you into his tower or jungler. If he get's ahead you can't farm under tower because he'll just ult and knock you out of your tower.

He can't be allowed to be anything but a support for game health reasons.

Funkin Dunkin2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Art of the Sword,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uhQAxFHr,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-11-13T15:19:07.072+0000)

Alistair is bullshit to lane against when he's viable solo. His 'trading pattern' consists of him knocking you up, autoing you, and then headbutting you half a screen away for a thunderlord proc and zero chance of retaliation every time it's off cooldown, followed by him healing up and pushing the wave to your tower - meanwhile if you ever try to trade with him when he doesn't want to, he knocks you up and headbuts you into his tower or jungler. If he get's ahead you can't farm under tower because he'll just ult and knock you out of your tower.

He can't be allowed to be anything but a support for game health reasons.

Lane Alistar can be beat but you won't do it in a poking match. No range champs like Tryn, garen, or Yas don't stand much chance against him. Additionally full AD champs like jayce don't stand much chance either. But now with this heal change....You can very well outpoke alistar with little risk because he can no longer heal for the damage he took. He's been turned into a passive heimerdinger without the turrets.

The Sword Saint1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Funkin Dunkin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uhQAxFHr,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-11-13T15:33:28.599+0000)

Lane Alistar can be beat but you won't do it in a poking match. No range champs like Tryn, garen, or Yas don't stand much chance against him. Additionally full AD champs like jayce don't stand much chance either. But now with this heal change....You can very well outpoke alistar with little risk because he can no longer heal for the damage he took. He's been turned into a passive heimerdinger without the turrets.

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Funkin Dunkin1 votes

You can't remove a champion from a lane completely just because he's good at something. That's just stupid and nearsighted. So not only did they remove a controllable heal they took away his passive trample which was probably what did the most damage in a solo lane. His passive. They turned him into nothing in a solo lane with the short sightedness of thinking solely support.

The Sword Saint1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Funkin Dunkin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uhQAxFHr,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-13T16:04:29.756+0000)

You can't remove a champion from a lane completely just because he's good at something. That's just stupid and nearsighted. So not only did they remove a controllable heal they took away his passive trample which was probably what did the most damage in a solo lane. His passive. They turned him into nothing in a solo lane with the short sightedness of thinking solely support.

Yes they can. It's riots game, not yours. His laning gameplay is degenerate when viable, so it's removed. Go back to support where you belong alistair.

IA9hRfpP5q1 votes

History of "Balance"

Lulu goes top or mid, get nerfed.

Soraka goes top or mid, gets reworked 100% into support role

However they released Ekko that was a dual assassin tank and it took FOREVER for him to be nerfed. Riven still cancer in any lane Yasuo took forever to nerf bruiser yasuo.

I hate this game. Only play it every once in a while When a company says "We encourage you to play any champion any role you like" but then they nerf them into only that 1 class. Yeah, there's something wrong.

Mecha MaIphite3 votes

I would much rather play against tankko or riven than fucking lulu top

The Sword Saint1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Whitney Houston,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uhQAxFHr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-11-13T14:51:44.723+0000)

History of "Balance"

Lulu goes top or mid, get nerfed.

Soraka goes top or mid, gets reworked 100% into support role

However they released Ekko that was a dual assassin tank and it took FOREVER for him to be nerfed. Riven still cancer in any lane Yasuo took forever to nerf bruiser yasuo.

I hate this game. Only play it every once in a while When a company says "We encourage you to play any champion any role you like" but then they nerf them into only that 1 class. Yeah, there's something wrong.

Blah blah, I don't like riven, supports should be allowed to bully every lane with zero effort while also scaling hard, I don't like this game or play it much but my opinions are somehow important.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

typically supports are over tuned and when people finds way to play them in other roles makes the champs strong so in order to level the playing field in those lanes , be either top/mid/jungle they nerf the champs of what makes them strong in those lanes and it indirectly nerfs them as supports.

Funkin Dunkin1 votes

I enjoyed playing him top lane immensely. Even mid from time to time. But his early game is zero now without a controllable heal. They've taken him to support role only combined with only mid to late game. In addition to his heal doesn't do jack to himself and no longer scales with AP. At least allow his passive heal to scale with AP.

Shuyin1781 votes

I'm sorry, what nerfs are you talking about exactly?

If it's the rework then you know less than Jon Snow. Reworked Alistar can hold his own in lane easily, infact he's able to beat Jayce of all champions.

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