So Kha'zix gets nerfed/changed 50 times while Shaco doesn't?

After3perma·Dec 1, 2018·2 votes·1,807 views

Lets nerf and change Kha'zix's stealth 50 billion times so now evolving R is no longer efficient. Let the whole community complain about how Kha'zix one shots the target from stealth.

But Shaco is allowed to have a longer stealth, have built-in Q cooldown reduction and deal bonus damage while one shotting. That's fine. Shaco can build semi-tank items like Trinity Force and Titanic Hydra and still one shot and nobody cares, but Kha'zix has to build full squishy to get the same damage, and still people complain.

Keep it up guys. Lets continue complaining about the wrong champions while the actual broken champions are left untouched.

14 Comments

SwiftKitten88Dec 1, 20183 votes

not saying Shaco didnt need bigger nerfs than Khazix ... but Khazix DID needs nerfs

After3permaDec 1, 20181 votes

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not saying didnt need bigger nerfs than ... but DID needs nerfs

Yeah I understand that Kha'zix needs nerfs. But Shaco is a more problematic champion than Kha'zix is. Shaco does the same stuff Kha'zix does but better.

GildarztDec 5, 20182 votes

what kind of joke is that?

MLDzXnRRRDec 1, 20183 votes

I'm more afraid from mediocre Kha than Shaco one trick...

DisembarkDec 1, 20182 votes

Shaco has received way more nerfs than Kha since assassin rework. Not to mention Kha got buffed again.

Small brain post. Try again __

SKHynixDec 1, 20182 votes

How you can nerf shaco? He is getting all dmg from duskblade and trinity passive. His kit has shit AD scaling. Khazix got low Q cd, better stealth, healing,more mobility, reset on jump.

HÔPÊDec 1, 20182 votes

You cannot nerf Shaco at the moment, he is getting all damage from Dark Harvest, Duskblade and Trinity. They should just fkn remove Dark Harvest and Duskblade.

I am a Shaco player. On one of my acc even a Shaco OTP, but ... he doesn't feel fun to play anymore. It feels like he isn't even a champion. He is just an items and keystones abuser. This is actually sad. This meta makes an item slave out of Shaco. He is like Badoof from Pokemon.

I mean, if Riot removes DH and Duskblade, Shaco won't even have dmg to do anything, but for me it is completely ok.

Just MonikhaDec 2, 20181 votes

And revert Shaco*

GildarztDec 5, 20181 votes

it would be op

Just MonikhaDec 5, 20181 votes

And you come back with the same useless arguments while you don t even look a second at numbers, type of damage and at Shaco in general...

Passive : No Dark Harvest we won t fear to see this ability broken, will also permite bruiser, crit and on hit Shaco to be viable.
Q : Why tf would you find it broken ? No Duskblade and no Dark Harvest, old vision system wasn t here before but this did not made Shaco above 50% winrate before the rework.
W : Litteraly, LITTERALY nothing changed, just boxes having old interaction with red trinket and this did not made Shaco with such an enormous winrate (under 50%)
E : No Dark Harvest so no fear to get oneshot from range. Was magic damage with high AD scaling before so this helps both AP and flat AD Shaco and nerf letha Shaco.
R : It just gave us free control of our moove in R (no RNG), 200 max base damage on a spell difficult to hit with and fixes bugs.

You can say what you want but THIS is the way to make Shaco fun and healthy again.

GildarztDec 10, 20181 votes

So you solution to revert shaco is remove one item and a key mastery. Are you drunk?

Just MonikhaDec 10, 20181 votes

It s a solution to change a whole class, the AD assassin to a better thing, getting oneshoted from midlife by an autoattack from a spell reliant champion should never exist in this game, if you don t see actualy each time you play an AD assassin (except Kha'Zix, blue Kayn and maybe Talon) you just play a creep untill you have Draktarr, after this you don t play the AD assassin you play Draktarr with Dark Harvest as a mobi champion, that s all, your kit is just super bad in terms of AD scaling so your spells deal no damage that s the first fact. Second fact is that lethality is just super bad, you need 1 letha item and lvl 18 to go through Tabis which only costs 1100 golds so imagine just a second with Tabis+ Zhonya/GA you can t go through this + base armor with the 3 items, that s why now Nocturne goes Lethal Tempo + bruiser as build and not letha oneshot build. After reflexion remove DH seems bad, a massive nerf for ranged champion and a little for melee champions would be ok. Finally this is what i will do if i can change things :

Buff AD ratios to close to all the AD assassins and fully revert or not some of them by discussing with high elo mains and nerf their cc durations
Remove Duskblade from the game, too strong when no Tabis, too weak when Tabis + make all the AD assassins able to counter the vision which is basically their counter + a 99% slow just to make this item even more unfun, ok the slow time is short but still it s 99% this means with several application (like Kha'Zix using R) you can have a 99% slow for like 0,4 second without counting the other ccs of the champions, in other terms you just can t moove which is super unfun.
Buff lethality in early game and nerf the scaling, of course assassins are not meant to be strong late game but early game monsters but with these numbers it not the case.
Put a 50% reduction of flat damage and/or soul scaling for ranged for Dark Harvest and eventually after if AD assassins become broken nerf a little bit the scaling.

ZedthulDec 1, 20182 votes

I don't think Shacko can jump over wall's and jump person to person. I mean doesn't Kha's Ult reset if he kills someone?

Just MonikhaDec 2, 20182 votes

I main both and I don t think Shaco has a 240% AD ratio and on a 2 second spell right ? I don t think Shaco has a heal right ? I don t think Shaco has a 60-90% slow from range right ? I don t think Shaco have 10% pickrate right ? I don t think Shaco has a 900 range resetable gap closer right ? I don t think Shaco E does super high amount of damage right ? I don t think Shaco can become invisible twice at the same moment right ? Am I right about all of these ??