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8 of 10 placement matches won, personally carried 3, a- or higher on every champ rating, placed B5

Hammermancer··6 votes·1,070 views

Seriously? Why did i try so hard in placements? why even give me placements if i literally had zero chance to start even in high bronze?

I'm not claiming to be good, I'm just saying that if I won 80% of my placements, and clearly did well, why the fuck am i put in the lowest division possible? Ok i get that my past MMR has something to do with it, but none of my placements even count for LP? So i win 8 of ten, carry 3 of them on my own, I tried hard man, I gave it my best, I stayed in a good mood, calmly stopped teammates from fighting, I did everything I could to improve myself for this, I wanted to place high enough to climb to silver in under 20 or so games.

Lets assume I'm as good as I think I am... which i think i'm trash so that's not even that high

Lets say I start climbing and belong in silver 4 at my current ability.

Ok lets say that i have no games with actual intentional feeders (There's a lot down here, they even admit it after calling us a couple of racial slurs)

Lets say I win Every single match, regardless of the fact that i just won so much that if i had started Bv with 0LP i'd be b4.

Ok so, I need 5 for promos, then best of 5? Lets say 3 of each promo I win.

Ok, so I need 40 games to get to silver.. 40 consecutive wins

That's not something I expect, not something I'm really compelled to do anymore at this point, I thought placements would take into account how well I did in the actual fucking placements

And then I could evaluate my abilities from there and watch my replays (Which i saved to rewatch later) , see where i went wrong

Yeah I can still do that now, but I dont think it's really worth it at this point. Too much in my way.

80% fucking win rate, for nothing.

winning every lane, added about ten new friends from enemy teams because they liked my attitude ( I told my teammates not to be salty, I nicely told the angry/salty people what they should work on and what i saw of them losing lane, stuck up for the people they blamed, kept my chin up)

so you force me into ten games against low tier players, allow me to believe i've gotten better, but in reality this is the same shit as chat restriction, where you get forced into a low priority quo

I see this as a punishment.

Again I'm not claiming to be great... or even good, but this system has basically turned me off to ranked, I'm not sure i even think your rating systems are worth enough merit.

I feel cheated, I feel like i may as well have played norms where the meta is less important and winning is less intensive,

I feel like I want my money for my skins back, I feel like I should uninstall

Fuck it I feel like I should just play crit garen mid in ranked from this point on because it doesn't even matter.

Ten matches for nothing, ten.... to get something you hung in front of me that I had zero chance of getting

You literally demoted me for winning

thank you riot.

TL;DR I tried hard, did Relatively great (For my level of play), and got nothing out of it

10 Comments

Çhåryzård4 votes

You can win 10 out of 10 placements, if you got placed Bronze 4 last season (which you did) you will not be put at your current rank or higher than it. Only place it'll put you is Bronze 5.

If you got Bronze 4 last season then you're only 1 tier down, it'll never put you higher than what you got, it is designed to make you climb

Hammermancer3 votes

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You can win 10 out of 10 placements, if you got placed Bronze 4 last season (which you did) you will not be put at your current rank or higher than it. Only place it'll put you is Bronze 5.

If you got Bronze 4 last season then you're only 1 tier down, it'll never put you higher than what you got, it is designed to make you climb

In all honesty, it shouldn't even let me try then. I might as well have just afk'd for ten games straight because i'd have gotten the same exact results (Maybe with a temp ban)

It literally didn't matter what I did, if you can't see why I feel bad about this and why I feel cheated then you've no right to judge me.

I seriously worked my ass off man, and I didn't get shit to shovel in return.... hell those 3 games where I fucking solo carried.....

Look i'm more stressed about the fact that i didn't earn any LP from it than anything else, I actually have to work harder to rank up now because it's probably gonna shift my MMR from my win streak and not give me any LP to compensate, which means I did the job for no pay

Çhåryzård1 votes

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In all honesty, it shouldn't even let me try then. I might as well have just afk'd for ten games straight because i'd have gotten the same exact results (Maybe with a temp ban)

It literally didn't matter what I did, if you can't see why I feel bad about this and why I feel cheated then you've no right to judge me.

I seriously worked my ass off man, and I didn't get shit to shovel in return.... hell those 3 games where I fucking solo carried.....

Look i'm more stressed about the fact that i didn't earn any LP from it than anything else, I actually have to work harder to rank up now because it's probably gonna shift my MMR from my win streak and not give me any LP to compensate, which means I did the job for no pay

Nobody gets lp from your series.

You get lp from being ranked.

So you don't actually earn lp until youre ranked.

There are people who are in Gold and Plat who get put in Bronze which is 2-3 tiers lower, trust me, it isn't as bad as you think

Hammermancer3 votes

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Nobody gets lp from your series.

You get lp from being ranked.

So you don't actually earn lp until youre ranked.

There are people who are in Gold and Plat who get put in Bronze which is 2-3 tiers lower, trust me, it isn't as bad as you think

so what am I supposed to do? just accept the fact that I have an 80% winrate but am considered the lowest person in my division because i'm b5 0lp?

Grind up from the bottom and feel like shit again? I actually practiced, I stopped playing ranked last season so I could learn different build styles and improve my meta (easier to do in norms when people aren't going all apeshit on everyone for everything)

So i practiced and now i'm literally placed in what is called ELO hell

I feel like I've already proven that i'm of better success rate than the people of b5, because I won most of my games

I'm not even trying to be caustic here, I just dont see why i was even made to go through this other than neglectful hazing. I know i'm bad, it's how i get better, but I just want roughly an accurate representation of how less bad i've become

In all honesty the reason i tried so hard was to avoid being placed in the most toxic environment in the game, I just wanted to have an edge because i did well, and it was actually for nothing

Dracovicus1 votes

Welcome to the club. I legit got 1 teir higher than you and went back a full devision, adn i spent the whole season fighting to get out of bronze last season, so now i have to do it again. and I'm recording this series too for youtube, so it eveident I'm not great, but I'm no bronze either.

Çhåryzård1 votes

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so what am I supposed to do? just accept the fact that I have an 80% winrate but am considered the lowest person in my division because i'm b5 0lp?

Grind up from the bottom and feel like shit again? I actually practiced, I stopped playing ranked last season so I could learn different build styles and improve my meta (easier to do in norms when people aren't going all apeshit on everyone for everything)

So i practiced and now i'm literally placed in what is called ELO hell

I feel like I've already proven that i'm of better success rate than the people of b5, because I won most of my games

I'm not even trying to be caustic here, I just dont see why i was even made to go through this other than neglectful hazing. I know i'm bad, it's how i get better, but I just want roughly an accurate representation of how less bad i've become

In all honesty the reason i tried so hard was to avoid being placed in the most toxic environment in the game, I just wanted to have an edge because i did well, and it was actually for nothing

If you've truly become a lot better than how you used to be, you will climb to where you're supposed to be. That's how it works. And yes, some people are toxic, but I assure you Silver is no better. If you have really gotten better, you will climb.

Don't just give up because you're in bronze, because then you will for sure get nowhere.

ShaolinToilet2 votes

He's saying he doesn't wantto play 50 to 100 games just to get out of bronze. It probably isn't fun dealing with feeders and trolls every game.

Hammermancer1 votes

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If you've truly become a lot better than how you used to be, you will climb to where you're supposed to be. That's how it works. And yes, some people are toxic, but I assure you Silver is no better. If you have really gotten better, you will climb.

Don't just give up because you're in bronze, because then you will for sure get nowhere.

I want to tell you a how i feel... and understand that it's mostly said with lightheart and laughter as I write it... but it's also legitimately what we deal with down in hell (This might come across as way worse of a mood than it sounds) but again i lol about this and i dont get mad at people so before you judge my thoughts, understand i'm mocking myself here too...

I know that i'll eventually float to where i belong, I just really feel like my performance wasn't taken into account at all, and i'm probably b2-s3 in that range for my skill level.

I'm going to be honest on that, It's not easy for someone on my level to go solo carry a game. carrying bronze when you're not at the level to be able to 1v5 a bronze team (Like how most low golds are) and just find that hole and win the game is a painful painful thing. I just won a game that took over an hour and essentially it was me alone defending a base as my team ran out into jungle over and over, I just lucked out because the enemy team was also terrible and kept coming in at me 1 at a time.

then we almost FF'd right as we made a two inhib push and three of us died

Seriously, bronze isn't fun, I've seen people FF when their teams are behind by two kills and a tower at 20 minutes

And if you're not above average, I feel as though a huge chunk of the games are simply down to luck, did you land first pick? there's about a 1 in 3 chance that your entire team will pick the same damage type as you... oh and your adc is probably gonna be master yi... it sounds funny, but it's not. games go one of two ways, one team completely stomps a bunch of mentally disabled people, or nobody can figure out how to end, like at all, your team scores an ace? they run for baron or maybe for the top outer turret... meanwhile there's a wave pushing up mid and you could end there, you say it, they just go hover around baron... but then they for some reason don't do baron... they start fighting over blue buff or some shit... so you wasted 20 seconds of that ace and nothing is happening, you say "Hey im gonna give that inhib a shot" but then you're looking at the enemy team coming back up

You might get the inhib but your team still doesn't do anything.

like theres bronze and then there's bronze 5, and sometimes you can be out of b5 in a night, other times you load in and your mid lane says "Time to feed" because she doesn't like what support picked... and then the next game has two afk

Bronze is where all of the people who rage quit live, and along with them there are those who have computers that are decaying, and those who intentionally feed...

This is where people land for doing that so much... like so commonly... that they wind up at the bottom, and you have to escape that before you can even start trying to climb... the ladder starts in quicksand.

I've played in premades with silvers and golds, I didn't do amazingly but I held my own, got towers, listened.

So if i stick to it i'll be out of b5 tonight, but that alone... that one bracket... right there.. is enough to make me consider not playing anymore.. Just bronze 5

but then there's bronze 4, which is full of people who think they're great, think they're so amazing, nothing they do is a mistake... they escaped bronze 5..

essentially the best i've seen was the approximate b2 bracket, because people are tired of being angry I think

and that's just it, it's the combination of anger and refusal to coordinate, I've seen players in ELOs way outside of where they belong because they simply comply with the group, I've been those players, and sometimes when you have a decent team it's sort of relaxing to know you can just be another fish in the school.

there is less punishment in low bronze than anywhere else in the game, there is just as good of a chance of winning the game when you're down 6 turrets and 25 kills as there is when you're up 6 turrets and 25 kills.

it's funny to watch (Watch best of bronze, wood league adventures, and various other mockeries on youtube... it's all true)

But then theres those of us who know we probably belong there, and we watch in horror as we realize we may be like these people we see ourselves paired up with

bronze is full of the mentally challanged in leather jackets thinking they're badass

It's not enjoyable to be a part of.

And i'm told... that somewhere up there... there's a skill bracket.... that if i earn it and i improve enough, i'll never experience that again.

So i worked my ass off bro, and I've so far won 11 of 14 games including my placements

and even though I know i'll probably slide up, This isn't grinding through silver as a gold, or gold as a plat... this is hell... and i don't mean "Elo hell".. but there is some minor validity to it, you have these gambles, and with bad luck you can plummet... I mean games in which you watch from top lane as your whole team dies before minions spawn... and then once again each before the average level of the enemy team.. which hasn't died... is 3 I've seen this, and then they start yelling at eachother

oh my god they're all so angry, why is everyone so mad? why even play the game?

now once you get to b3, and you do well enough.... you start to see people at least try, they're not usually doing it right, but it's not so hellish.

and i can live with b3, because it's not so bad, carrying is less grueling, you dont finish a game with a headache

that's all i ask, if i win 80% of my "Placement" matches, please for the love of god put me further up than b5

just not fucking b5,

please

and my pride prevents me from calling a buddy...

also i miss being able to support... shit was dope..... when like... i wasn't at risk of supporting someone in b5

LordofEntropy1 votes

"I'm not even trying to be caustic here, I just dont see why i was even made to go through this other than neglectful hazing. I know i'm bad, it's how i get better, but I just want roughly an accurate representation of how less bad i've become"

The accurate representation of how less bad you've become will be how high you climb as you continue to play ranked. 10 games at the start of the season when everyone has been soft reset isn't very accurate at all. I guess unless you don't climb out of the rank you're put into after those placement games.

Cosmo Memoria1 votes

You quit ranked last season because you couldnt get out of bronze. Just git gud and stop whining

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