How to counter vayne

Now that's false. does not bounce back like a frog, she can get pretty far behind and feel useless. can only kill 350 armor tanks because their only damage is and their only means of self defence is slow.

yes, true. means she has less damage output. 1 in 1000 vaynes build this, and you cant even use while stunned so it actually doesn't help unless you use it before.

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In dange of enemy abilities: yes. That's all. A Malph ult, a Xin dash, a Veigar stun can kill her. But if she saves her E, she can push aay the first two.

"But if she saves her E, she can push aay the first two."

"Malph ult"

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Sure, she has 550 range. But unlike just about every other adc in the game, she has no influence outside of that range. Hell, even graves has more range on his Q and R. She has no poke at all whatsoever and this is very rare on an adc (I think vayne is the only adc with this limitation).

She gets more from a shiv rush? Not really any more than any other adc does. And shiv allows her to push, but its basically useless in a siege situation. So she is still near useless when her team is getting pushed in and has a hard time getting in to hit a tower when on the offense.

Yea, we have to talk teamcomps. But if you see an enemy vayne and you pick mundo, garen, chogath you deserve to lose the game. Vayne is a hyper carry and part of the game is choosing champions that will help you win. So when they pick Vayne, you need to make smart champion choices against that.

If malph is hitting Vayne with an ultimate and isn't dead by the time she hits the ground, your team REALLY messed up. Like I keep saying, shes a hypercarry with low range. You team should be bumrushing her and killing her before she gets off a single silverbolts proc. Because of her range, your team should be able to follow up. If they don't, thats not a problem of Vayne being too strong, its a matter of your team not executing teamfights properly. I used malphite ultimate here, but this is true of any initiation that is used on Vayne.

How exactly does she push back 2 people? I'm having a lot of trouble understanding that one. Do you actually know Vayne's kit?

Lanes are being decided long before level 8, especially this season. If your bot lane hasn't won or at least amassed some sort of advantage by that point in the lane, then they essentially screwed up. If you don't shut down the late game scaling champions early, you are going to lose the game. That's just how the game works.