Isn't it About Time to Buff Gragas?

Lemons22··2 votes·531 views

This dude is in a pathetic state, his win rate is consistently around 45%, one of the lowest in the game. Between the nerfs to both Cinderhulk, gromp buff, and targeted nerfs at his kit (slow on Q, width of Body Slam, passive nerf, etc) he is a mess. He doesn't do damage, he doesn't really tank, he just offers some CC and a knockback and then prays to the elder gods that his team will do the rest.

Here are some suggestions.

1 Tweak his Q: Currently every single thing on his Q (Barrel Roll) scales with how long the cask "ferments"...the damage, the slow duration, the slow amount, all of it. Give Grag at least one thing for free, one thing that doesn't scale it just happens. For instance, the slow duration should be 2 seconds flat, not a scaling from 1.3 to 2 seconds. Because the the slow amount is scaling, isn't that punishment enough for not letting the cask sit? The slow has to wear off faster as well? Grag is simply too punished for insta-popping his cask, which honestly takes some skill to pull of when so many champions can just jump away as soon as they see a barrel rolling at them, hell, skill players can sometimes just walk to the side to avoid it.

2 Give him some damage: His damage early is pretty decent, but after a while it's a complete joke. There are tanks in this game that do way more damage than Grag, and Grag isn't even a real tank, more of an AP fighter, so why is his damage so crazy low?

3 Revert passive nerf. Seriously. There are plenty of champions who can sustain WAYYYY better than Grag in the jungle, if those champions are fine then Grag should be fine to get his passive buffed a little so he can actually stay out a bit longer. I mean I'm already going back to base all the to get mana because yall removed mana pots, why should I have to go back all the time for health as well? His clear is so bad right now it's Kha'zix levels of getting my ass beat in the jungle and having to back every other second.

Those are just a few suggestions, but the bottom line is Gragas needs some serious buffs to become not even a top tier jungler, but at least a competitive one.

6 Comments

OnlyGragasOnlyGG2 votes

I don't see much to complain about, playing him in all roles with good outcome. The only thing that annoys me is the nerf on his base health regens. His passive feels more like a burden than a power. Wouldn't like to see him buffed at the level when a lot people played him, he is fine now.

Lemons221 votes

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I don't see much to complain about, playing him in all roles with good outcome. The only thing that annoys me is the nerf on his base health regens. His passive feels more like a burden than a power.

Ah yeah, I forgot about that nerf. Yeah perhaps just reverting that would do the trick on the sustain front.

OnlyGragasOnlyGG2 votes

Ah yeah, I forgot about that nerf. Yeah perhaps just reverting that would do the trick on the sustain front.

I forgot one thing aswell, http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-413-notes

The most horrible patch I've ever encountered. This was the day Gragas' farm fest came to an end and I QQd alot.

WookieJesuz1 votes

Yep.

360D3GR3SS1 votes

Make His Q deal more damage to minions!

Lady Hammerlock1 votes

he is ok he brings massive utility and his W makes sure he can keep up in dmg the issue is gragas actually takes some skill to pull off like a cool put your Q behind you ult someone then W>E them into your Q and bam they die isn't so easy he can bring enemy carries closer to murder range he shouldn't have more dmg tho or the nightmares of full ap gragas will return

more tank stuff a form of sustained dmg rather then burst(so full ap gragas doesn't rise once more) possibly revert or buff some of the nerf that were put in place like W now goes from 8/8.5/9/9.5/10 % on respective levels for the % hp dmg and thats still 2 less from when they nerfed him

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