so my Idea was that if 
Loses stacks on his Passive for Dying, why does 
keep his ?
This guy can literally scale into Oblivion during the game, so what if he would get Punished for Dying.
And no, i don't wanna say 
should lose his stacks, that's pretty much all he's is good for. but Veigar has enough killing Potential already.
VoidStaresBack6 votesYou mean the mechanic that Riot is removing in the next patch because it was so punishing on Cho'gath?
SkZ DoPe1 votesi think losing stacks ain't the reason none plays Cho, more that he is ... a bit aged in form of spell design
VoidStaresBack4 votesOh he absolutely is. I love cho, but his archaic design makes him hard to play at times. That being said, the losing stacks mechanic was really, really stupid and was basically a snowball mechanic: if Cho can keep his stacks, especially early game, he's nearly unkillable, but if he can't keep his stacks he's really squishy and gets blown up easily. Cho is heavily reliant on the tank stats his stacks give him to survive team fights, especially if he builds more than one damage item. It's an annoying mechanic that doesn't exist on any other champion and has no reason to exist in the game: you're already punished heavily for dying, why should your champion actively become weaker because of it?
MissingKayo5 votesWhat if no.
Git gud.
Ark Sorcerer2 votesWhat if yes. Veigar is more powerfully than pre-nerf Syndra because stacks yet Riot nerfs her because.... further range? Hello Xerath.
You can still be "gud" and only need one Veigar ult to kill you.
Good*
MissingKayo4 votesYou're bad at the game. Git gud. Veigar ult can't ever kill you by itself in any realistic scenario.
Ark Sorcerer1 votesBecause late game, Veigar never can ult a 700 HP or lower anyone and kill them right there and then during a fight.
Good*
MissingKayo5 votesThat's not "by itself."
They would've had to take damage from at least 1 other source, if not more, first.
Ark Sorcerer1 votesOkay fine.
You get in a fight, you take some damage. You have about 600 HP when Veigar ults you. Dead.
Better?
MissingKayo3 votesYeah, sure.
Okay, that's still your fault. Why were you staying in his range if you had 30% maximum health (if you were a squishy carry assuming 2k health)? What's your point?
Trídent4 votes600 HP late game is nothing lol...
Automated Riven2 votes600 HP .. sounds like an adc auto attack to me
LostFr0st2 votesCho'Gath has a rework of this going live next patch.
Ark Sorcerer1 votesAfter Syndra was nerfed for being a longer range version of Veigar, I would appreciate if Riot did that. I mean, Veigars ult is better than Syndra's pre-nerf.
LordGeovanni1 votesthey just need to remove veigar getting ap for every spell hit like some bs