Regarding Brand Support

Kaisa is Hot··4 votes·987 views

Can we please tone down his base damages and possibly increase his scaling? He shouldn't be able to completely stop an ADC from farming, So frustrating to lane vs a Brand, then throw in a good synergizer like Jhin or Lucian and you're done.

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Renascent3 votes

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Can we please tone down his base damages and possibly increase his scaling?

Copy-pasted from League wiki:

Blaze.png Blaze Damage per second reduced 0.5% of target's maximum health from 2. NEW EFFECT: Stacks up to 3 times (1.5% of target's maximum health per second) NEW EFFECT: At 3 stacks an area around the target is highlighted. After 2 seconds, all targets within the area take magic damage equal to 12% - 16% (based on level) (+ 1% per 60 AP) of their maximum health. The damage from this detonation will apply Blaze to secondary targets and refresh the current timer on the target. Once a target has detonated, they will not generate Blaze stacks again for 4 seconds (until their current buff times out) Sear.png Sear Damage reduced to 80 / 110 / 140 / 170 / 200 from 80 / 120 / 160 / 200 / 240. AP ratio reduced to (+ 55% AP) from (+ 65% AP) Stun duration reduced to 1.5 seconds from 2. Pillar of Flame.png Pillar of Flame Cooldown reduced to 10 / 9.5 / 9 / 8.5 / 8 from 10 at all ranks. Cost reduced to 60 / 70 / 80 / 90 / 100 from 70 / 80 / 90 / 100 / 110. Conflagration.png Conflagration Damage reduced to 70 / 90 / 110 / 130 / 150 from 70 / 105 / 140 / 175 / 210. AP ratio reduced to (+ 35% AP) from (+ 65% AP) Cooldown reduced to 10 / 9 / 8 / 7 / 6 seconds from 12 / 11 / 10 / 9 / 8. Pyroclasm.png Pyroclasm Damage reduced to 100 / 200 / 300 from 150 / 250 / 350. AP ratio reduced to (+ 25% AP) from (+ 50% AP)

As you can see, his damage, from base to scalings, were actually all nerfed. The only "buff" Brand received was the new explosion passive. This means that Brand support definitely has less poke than previous Brand, since he is now completely dependent on landing a combo to dish out the heat compared to other mage supports.

Calabok2 votes

no

YoungKawaiiLord2 votes

If you think Brand is bad then you haven't played against Zyra busted ass

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

the 3 stooges of bot lane

Brand Zyra Velkoz

i dont ever wanna adc against any of these.. don't like getting oneshot by one of them with just a frostfang lol

Silly Neeko1 votes

Plenty worse than a Brand. My new go to support vs a Draven is possibly going to be Karthus now lol. You know exactly where his axe is going to land, and you could in theory poke twice before it lands. Early solo hit with Karthus Q is like 81+ damage. Either he catches his axe and takes hefty damage, or he lets it drop wasting his passive's extra gold and his extra damage until his spinning axe is up again.

Unless they have a bursty or CC support, or mabey a soraka, bot lane is already won. And even then, who says that support will hit any of their CC? the enemy will burn through so much more resources to keep you from using that 20 mana Q of Karthus.... Brand is good, but same as with any burst support, they are squishy. Anyways, good luck in future games.

Wînter Fox1 votes

I'd rather Brand be down there than YAAAAAAAAAAY TIBBEEEEERRZZZZZZZZZZ

SouL1ess1 votes

Brand Support got nerfed already with the mage rework.

-Base damage reduced -Single-cast Spell damage reduced across every spell due to single-stack blaze nerfs -Sear stun duration nerfed

Bolded part were the two things Support Brand was good at.

Edit: I actually looked up the numbers on League Wiki (and Renascent's post) again and...150 damage at rank 5 on E makes me want to laugh...

It IS a shit skill to begin with, and Riot did NOT rework this skill along with the mage rework. Completely disappointing.

Bijorn1 votes

Brands base damages were all nerfed besides his W i believe, as well as all of his ratios. So no.

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