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Why does rengar have to be a thing?

Gubaguy··6 votes·857 views

Like... really... why? Just got out of a game, playing jungle nautalis, i went FULL TANK, cinderhulk, deadmans plate, frozen heart, etc. i had over 300 armour, and nearly 4k hp.

Rengar was able to kill me in a 1v1 fight in about 3 seconds. He killed everyone else on my team in less then 1 second. Like... why is this allowd to be a thing? he killed my ENTIRE TEAM faster then i could land a single auto. 9 times out of 10 we would see him coming, i would get in front of him and throw my Q out, but his target woudl be dead before it landed.

the ONLY time he wasnt a threat was when he gave me first blood, and the only reason that happend was becuase he decided to tower dive at lvl 4, failed, and i caught him during his escape. After that though he jsut waited and farmed until suddenly people started getting killed all accross the map, he was uncatchable, and my team blamed me for not peeling him. But how do you peel someone that kills EVERYONE in 1 second?

So seriously, why does rengar get to be a thing? Why is there a champ that can 1v5, kill peopel so fast that they are dead before they even get to auto once, and then leave a battle with full hp?

And dont bring darius into this, darius is DESIGNED to be liek that, rengar is supposed to be AN ASSASSIN, not a bloody 1v5 unkillabel fighter who has more sustain then mundo with 6 warmogs.

19 Comments

PePsiLemoNN2 votes

item 3142 item 3035 item 3723 that is 30 flat armor penetration + 35%

NaturesMayhem2 votes

I main Rengar. Rengar is a champ that requires a vast amount of skill to get to that point. Between runes masteries and builds. The way to beat a Rengar is to go into his jungle and invade him at Razorbeaks with 2 allys. One should have CC. Dont fight Rengar around bushes because you will usually lose or he will escape. If you want to counter Rengar you need a lot of CC. I main him and I dont know many other ways to beat him. He can delete ADC's instantly but has a harder time on tanks. When you know he is comeing try to crowd around the ADC. So he will most likely panic and not go in and waste his ult or go in and miss his main damage and not hit the ADC. Its good to buy a pink ward so when you know he is comeing place t down in the middle of the group and you will see him and be able to CC and Peel for the ADC.

Treeofwar1 votes

so what your saying is why can a assassin kill a tank. I mean the point of the assassin is the kill anyone in 2 sec

Ralanr2 votes

No. The point of an Assassin is to delete carries. The point of a tank is to defend carries from assassins. Assassins are burst, tanks counter burst.

And to answer the question on a 1v5 champion problem: ever seen a fed Jax?

HaIlMonitor1 votes

Tanks are not unkillable and when they are behind they are in a really bad spot. It was a fed Rengar that probably did some cheese like killed him at red or did early ganks and get fed. When you are 10+/0 at level 11 on Rengar (Or insert all champions but maybe Raka and Janna here) not much will stop him and he will be ulting every chance he gets.

Ralanr1 votes

I never said they weren't unkillable. I was just giving the basic rock paper scissors. If you're fed enough then nothing really stops you.

Gubaguy1 votes

Then that defeats the entire purpose of a tank, if a tank cant stop an assassin, or the assassin can burst down a tank regardless of how tanky they are then there is no reaosn to have a tank. I would have been better off playing yi, or ekko, or even teemo over nautalis.

Is that what you are saying?

It doesnt make sense that someone is able to compeltely nuke the entire team in 1 second, then the tank in 3, it comeplteky defeats the purpose of the roles, fed or not if one champion can solo an entire team theres a fucking problem.

Ralanr1 votes

Wow people are thinking with extremes.

Tanks are meant to survive burst. Forcing the assassin to retreat or get grouped. Tanks are weak to DPS.

Gubaguy1 votes

So rengar gets both? becuase he melted my team, and me, wit no trouble. i couldnt force him out of a fight the whole game.

Ralanr1 votes

Based on the match history, looks like he sold his jungle item late game and had about 23.84 armor pen that applied after ignoring 35% of your armor.

Dude was a can opener.

FluffyMcArfArf1 votes

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Then that defeats the entire purpose of a tank, if a tank cant stop an assassin, or the assassin can burst down a tank regardless of how tanky they are then there is no reaosn to have a tank. I would have been better off playing yi, or ekko, or even teemo over nautalis.

Is that what you are saying?

It doesnt make sense that someone is able to compeltely nuke the entire team in 1 second, then the tank in 3, it comeplteky defeats the purpose of the roles, fed or not if one champion can solo an entire team theres a fucking problem.

Was he sated?

Gubaguy1 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1969336506/201402079?tab=overview nope, no jungle item, AT ALL

Treeofwar1 votes

key word "fed" i mean i have 1v5 penta killed as zed but i was fed and for the whole tanks defend carries rengar builds like full armor pen so your armor means nothing.

khorney1 votes

exhaust thornmail . frozen heart does nothing agaisnt him cause when i build him i get cd so i do not rely on attack speed black cleaver and last whisper i wouldnt have trouble jkilling you either

MalzaharAnyLane1 votes

I always love when people whine like this and never link to their post-game stats

Gubaguy1 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1969336506/201402079?tab=overview

FluffyMcArfArf1 votes

If the Rengar's build was something like THIS...

item 3931 item 3074 item 3071 item 3072 item 3035 item 3031

...Then that might explain why he stuck his kitty dick up you and all four of your teammates assholes and completely destroyed you.

But if he built like a Rengar normally would, and you're NOT lying about how tanky you were, then i doubt he killed you as fast as you say.

Gubaguy1 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1969336506/201402079?tab=overview

Uva9x6gDhC1 votes

+1, Rengar is an abomination that needs massive gutting till his win rate is 40%

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