How the hell do people think Darius is balanced?

Glîtchy··11 votes·2,118 views

he literally just does pull + Ult + ult + ult + ult + ult for penta and is tanky af and deals bleed as his FUCKING PASSIVE, I mean if I wanted to deal with bullshit, I woulda just went mid against Lux, can't we just nerf the tanky as hell beaters ffs?

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LeagueOfJhin5 votes

Darius main downvotes incoming

SwiftKitten887 votes

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Darius main downvotes incoming

.... no downvotes by people with brains incoming.

Darius is strong yes... but he isn't broken...

believe me... THERE WAS A TIME WHEN HE WAS BROKEN!!!! he isn't broken now..

Glîtchy1 votes

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.... no downvotes by people with brains incoming.

Darius is strong yes... but he isn't broken...

believe me... THERE WAS A TIME WHEN HE WAS BROKEN!!!! he isn't broken now..

He feels no different then when he was broken.

DrCyanide2 votes

Just looked up the changes since then, if you think he feels the same to play against your crazy.

Glîtchy1 votes

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Just looked up the changes since then, if you think he feels the same to play against your crazy.

let's see, harass then ult, yea, it's the same

DrCyanide1 votes
  • 90% slow -> 40% slow
  • 15% missing health healing -> 12%
  • Spin/healing attack made easier to dodge

So worse harass and sustain, but still has an ultimate so broken?

Jo0o4 votes

He's brutal in lane, but gets kited/focused hard in team fights.

Some chain CC makes it pretty easy to avoid him stacking bleeds in a team fight later in the game, and without that he can't do much. Solid champ overall, worth considering a ban for, but his power at melee range is nicely balanced against his weakness to ranged imho.

Glîtchy1 votes

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He's brutal in lane, but gets kited/focused hard in team fights.

Some chain CC makes it pretty easy to avoid him stacking bleeds in a team fight later in the game, and without that he can't do much. Solid champ overall, worth considering a ban for, but his power at melee range is nicely balanced against his weakness to ranged imho.

they need to just remove the ult reset on kill then I would have NO problems with his kit

Jo0o5 votes

Darius's ult reset is his payoff for getting a good engage in a team fight, and offsets some of the danger of pushing up in lane.

He's not nearly as tanky as true "tank" champs, so without his potential to pop off in a team fight, he'd be extremely weak late-game. He already has issues falling off in the late game, removing his ult reset would be crippling.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

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He's not nearly as tanky as true "tank" champs

Building 4 tank items instead of 5 like true tanks doesn't make that much of a difference. For all practical purposes, he can be just as tanky any pure tank. You're probably thinking of somebody like Shyvana who must build multiple damage items in order to be effective. Darius, Garen and Yorick only need one damage item and then they can tank their ass off with their remaining item slots.

Noxian Pride1 votes

It's not just about items, mate. He has no shield, no armor booster, an extremely situational heal, and not all that much CC. He has almost none of the tools true tanks have and all their slowness.

He's not a tank, he's a juggernaut: Durable and Strong as fuck, but slow and short-ranged.

Subject 53 votes

What's Darius got to do with Lux again?

Glîtchy2 votes

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What's Darius got to do with Lux again?

Note how I said, "If I wanted to deal with bullshit"

both are SERIOUSLY bullshit champs

GankedByWindows2 votes

Because he has clearly definited strong points and weak points that you can play around. Don't fight him head on. Kite him back, he really has no way of getting in range to pull you.

Glîtchy2 votes

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Because he has clearly definited strong points and weak points that you can play around. Don't fight him head on. Kite him back, he really has no way of getting in range to pull you.

RIght cause there are TONS of ranged top laners Quinn Vayne Gnar

GankedByWindows1 votes

Most top laners don't beat him in lane, and thats okay. They can do more out of lane phase because their power is more late game.

If you're someone who gets beat by Darius toplane, your goal should to stay even, not win. If you're behind 10cs by 10 minutes, you're doing great. Normally its tanks that Darius beats into the ground. If you're a tank, you contribute much more to a teamfight. Especially if your teammates can kite and lock him down with you.

PearPearadox1 votes

Don't forget about the little shitstain we know as teeto

Noxian Pride1 votes

To be fair, Teemo has become a joke at his strongest point in a match thanks to Doran's Shield.

Laxfan521 votes

Swain,vlad, heimer (people do it), teemo, ad nidalee, kennen

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Swain,vlad, heimer (people do it), teemo, ad nidalee, kennen

ad nidalee WAS broken... and i say that as a Nidalee main who used it the entirety of season 4

Créam2 votes

As a Darius main your complaing about the wrong champ my friend

nGio1 votes

He is definitely strong, but smart team fights can erase everything he did early, once you get to mid game. I would rather team fight a fed Darius than a non-fed top lane Fiora Riven Yasuo

The real problem is that there are so many champions who have been over nerfed, forgotten, and have become outdated. We are left with 'the big 4', and then a large of pool of meh to absolute dog shit.

Glîtchy1 votes

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He is definitely strong, but smart team fights can erase everything he did early, once you get to mid game. I would rather team fight a fed Darius than a non-fed top lane Fiora Riven Yasuo

The real problem is that there are so many champions who have been over nerfed, forgotten, and have become outdated. We are left with 'the big 4', and then a large of pool of meh to absolute dog shit.

So it's Yasuo, Riven, Fiora and Darius that are the only good top lane? Wtf

I don't wanna be forced to play the boring champs.

Proxy3451 votes

Because item 3022 counters him so hard lol Permaslow makes him 100% useless.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

Darius broken ? Ever seen this Yorick in one of your games ?

Glîtchy1 votes

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Darius broken ? Ever seen this Yorick in one of your games ?

Yes, and I destroy him, Nasus stacks off his minions.

Noxian Pride1 votes

And there's where your problem lies, mate. Darius by-design completely shits on Nasus. It's a counterpick.

Glîtchy1 votes

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And there's where your problem lies, mate. Darius by-design completely shits on Nasus. It's a counterpick.

I don't play Nasus unless Yorick's in the game, I play Yorick top otherwise

Noxian Pride1 votes

Yorick is a skill matchup that is arguably in Darius' favor. Do your best to stay out of reach until you get your full combo off on him (trap him with minions ready to roll) then engage with minions. His Q can't one-shot them so if he's smart he'll try to run and if he's dumb he'll engage and most likely die.

Expect harass while setting your minions up and have a plan for when he does.

Also ganks are your friend. Pre-6 Darius is incredibly vulnerable to them.

If you want to really piss off a Darius player, pick into him... Fiora (Skill matchup in your favor. Use parry on his auto reset because the pull animation is too fast and the AS slow screws him. If he goes to Q then either Q out or in depending on your confidence engaging. Keep trades short because long ones are in his favor. If the lane stays even then your best chance is level 10, when you start getting strong and he hasn't gotten rank 2 ult) Quinn (Must know how to stay out of reach, save vault for his pull. Harass him like he'd harass any melee champ) Karma (You won't kill him if he has more than two braincells, but he'll be beyond tilted from being unable to catch you) Riven (Either you're a shit one and he'll wreck you, or you're good and he won't stand a chance)

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