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@Scarizard - Question about the HUD Update: Why no ult timers and still those little green circles?

darkdill··90 votes·5,164 views

While I'm thrilled to see the HUD getting an update, there is one major problem with it: no ultimate timers (not even if you're holding TAB).

We're still sticking with those little green circles? LAME. I don't want to have to keep asking Karthus or Ashe how much more time I need to wait for their ultimates to come back up.

Riot says: "You're supposed to ask. It's called communication."

This isn't a good way to enforce it, though. Any pro player would tell you "STOP TYPING" regardless of your reason, because typing opens you up to being sniped. Or it ends up distracting who you're talking to and gets THEM killed, and then you have a toxic teammate keyboard fight. Or maybe you actually CAN'T ask because of chat restrictions, or maybe the other player speaks Chinese and you can't understand him.

In any case, I'd much rather just take a quick look and see how much time is left rather than having to press Enter and open up the toxi- err, chat window.

Community says: "Too much noise!"

Isn't that what this HUD update is reducing already? If most of the other noise has been reduced, this additional "noise" is acceptable now.

But if you're still going to whine about too much info, then Riot could always make it OPTIONAL. Seriously, it shouldn't be that hard for them to make an option to switch between a detailed ult timer and a simple ult timer. There, everyone wins.

Scarizard, can we get some context as to why the ult timers weren't changed?

(Oh, and I didn't post this on the PBE forums because I don't have access.)

26 Comments

John Berserk7 votes

According to Riot on the feedback thread in the PBE boards, they're looking into it for a future release.

http://i.imgur.com/KNPwcex.png

freeformline4 votes

Thanks for finding that! I'm glad they are looking into it.

Occams Raiser6 votes

It's 2015. Mechwarrior and the like has had custom huds for 2 decades. If you need to tell riot about making something optional now. They know, they just don't care to do what you want. I meant think about all the work that goes into making an extra couple of windows. And creating check boxes toggle on\off corresponding custom hud elements. That is practically a days worth of work for some ONE.

darkdill9 votes

If their response is "We don't care enough to put that in", their HUD programmers shouldn't be getting their paycheques.

blujadajhdja4 votes

I agree, but I honestly don't even like the new HUD update. They moved the items/purchasing tab on to the right for no reason. I guess maybe they're trying to centralize the HUD on the bottom, but at least keep them in the same orientation. I'd rather them put this current theme on top of the current HUD and then add more functionality such as the ult timers.

Jungle Lux God2 votes

Unfortunately, they didn't put room for ult timers.

The green dot is too small to put ult timers in, and the addition of enemy spawn timers above your allies' spawn timers/champion portraits prevents them from putting them above the champion.

Which is a real shame because ult timers are super important. Except when playing with Udyr. Then it's useless.

Teridax6819 votes

As tiny as the icon is, I think there's still room for an ult timer. Seeing how the little green crystal thing juts out of the ally's portrait a little, it could perhaps be possible to add a ring around the ally's portrait, which would disappear when they used their ult and refill around the portrait to reflect the recharging cooldown. It would take up very little space and convey something that should, by all rights, be made clear to everyone on the same team without a need for verbal communication.

darkdill8 votes

This.

Dragonface1 votes

Or put semi-transparent numbers that are small, but big enough to see, next to portraits.

kaveman891 votes

your a smart feller

TheJinxedOne1 votes

and if you click their picture it shows up in their info for clarity?

Silents4292 votes

According to reddit comments a red said they have it under heavy consideration, at that this is just the HUD at launch.

RiotChager5 votes

{quoted}

According to reddit comments a red said they have it under heavy consideration, at that this is just the HUD at launch.

Truth. This was on our backlog list of things that we want to do but weren't able to accomplish for the PBE launch. We also wanted to validate with players whether or not its something they would find useful. Overall players have asked a lot for this, and its something that we're working to deliver.

Cronovey1 votes

I'd really really really REALLY like to see summoner timers on the HUD as well. The spectator HUD has the exact information teams need for their teammates: icons depicting the cooldowns of both summoner spells and ultimate abilities. I'd like to see if my Shen top has his teleport up to return to lane before I all in and expect him to ult because I don't want to give the enemy team a free tower. I want to see when my ADC's heal is coming up so I know when it's safe to all-in as a Leona, and I want to know if my Rek'sai in the jungle has Flash available to Flash/Unburrow onto someone for the knockup.

Summoner spells are important information that needs to be conveyed to the team. I'm pretty sure every person playing the game has had that dragon or baron where your team starts it and the other team's jungler casually strolls by to steal it with Smite because your jungler had it on cooldown and didn't warn you. Everyone has had it happen to them and it's terrible when it does; helping prevent this type of situation would be wonderful, especially since some countries have understandable language barriers.

Puppet33r2 votes

Why not mkae these green circles surround champion portrait and fill up as the ultimate ability getting off cooldown.

Gigablitz1 votes

Curious, but why are you calling scarizard out on this?

darkdill3 votes

Because of his mention on the HUD Update official page.

Wrong department?

Gigablitz1 votes

I think he's on gameplay :/

Do you have a PBE account? They're gathering feedback there for sure

darkdill2 votes

No, I don't.

Dragonface4 votes

GOOD NEWS YOUSOSMART, I do. I'll link it on there, to here.

GundayMonday1 votes

I would like this too. Don't want to type for the extra information, and too dumb to memorize ult timers while also factoring in cdr from items/runes/masteries :'(

xTeemobile1 votes

Dude why you gotta bring the Chinese in this disscussion. Thats so racist.

darkdill2 votes

Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette.

Migrañaboy1 votes

Because there should be some sort of communication. Sometimes I've faced the situation that my team doesn't talk until we report timers, followed afterwards about the dynamics we will follow to rekt the other team. At least it happens for me, as I'm a pretty shy player.

ShinigamiOtaku1 votes

you can also just have the circle empty when used, and fill slowly as it cools down. And say when theres like, 60 secs left before its up again, but the number either behind or in front of the green, counting down

TheJinxedOne1 votes

they also need mana bars

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