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Ranked is Nothing but a Nightmare

GundamXionaz·1/2/2015, 5:58:29 AM·42 votes·5,565 views

Only recently have I tried out Ranked Games in LoL, as I mainly stick to Draft Normal and Team Builder... and the rumors I've heard are true... this is nothing but nightmare fuel. From people choosing Revive and Teleport so they can go feed the enemy team quicker, to people who AFK/Leave randomly, or when you ban someone's favorite champion and they go BALLISTIC and end up... feeding the enemy team... this is horrible. Now, I know these topics have been posted a million and one times but, damn I thought you people were kidding or they are rare circumstances!

The worst part of all is when you KNOW you have a troll right during champion select. Either the game starts and you have to waste 20 minutes, or you can leave and get a penalty and have to wait. You think Riot would figure out some solution to end this crap.

UPDATE However, I completely understand how difficult is to fix these issues. If you have a scenario when someone leaves because they are mad or DC, you should still lose LP. I know the community has mentioned you shoudln't lose any when this happens, however people WILL exploit this. Whenever you are about to lose, someone on your team could technically just leave to help prevent his teammates from losing a ton of LP. Not a great idea.

What about people intentially chosing stupid champions with idiotic builds for the sole purpose of trolling? Well, you will end up having a lot of matches not even starting because you'll have a few people who don't like your champion choice or they may think you are "beneath" them, ending up with a lot of people just booting someone for no reason.

While I don't have solutions to these problems, I do believe Riot should make it a priority to think of some method to prevent this from happening. I know attitude is cleaned up considerably in Gold, late division Platinum and Diamond, but a majority of players start in Bronze/Silver. Why should they have to suffer through these social insane people just to climb to a better elo?

107 Comments

Kledy McKledFace1/2/2015, 6:01:56 AM12 votes

riot's community the worse in the world...

ImHerVoice1/2/2015, 1:58:50 PM4 votes

this is pre season. All the trolls come out in pre season. and yes New ranked is shit. old MMR system was better rewarded good players. Punished shitters. New system baby pats the baddies with 3 losses before losing visual elo. its a real joke. And then at the same time you need a 60%+ winrate to climb tiers/divisions LOL what a sadist/masochist riot is to release this abomination of a ranked queue. The greed for our time grinding is real. They probably need it though so many players gonna just unistall from lack of east coast servers evenutally riot will stop making money and care about the players again.

fact is most of their customers in NA are east coast XD even a retarded person looking at an ISP usage map would see this and I don't mean a handicapped I mean a slow person(which is the correct usage)

BallisticMouse1/2/2015, 3:08:05 PM4 votes

From the sounds of it you haven't left your placement matches, try again after that.

From someone in Silver Division, I actually find things like this to be uncommon but when it does happen it is more memorable than every match you've ever won. Most of the time it seems to be people bluffing, an example being me saying I was taking support first pick but some fourth pick said he was go support no matter what. After him trying to convince me we were going duo supports, he took ADC and didn't say a single word all game.

Your own skill level being high can carry bad teamates but it's not just about being better, you need to communicate very well. I main support and I try to always keep Dragon Timer known in chat, where enemy wards i've seen placed are, where the jungler was last seen, etc. Sometimes it's just never enough but it's better to try and fail than to have never tried at all.

GundamXionaz1/2/2015, 6:34:05 AM3 votes

So, I just finished my last game of the evening. We won. How?

Well... the Zed on the opposing team (I kept ganking/camping him as the jungler) rage quit out. After that, the opposing team Sona kept feeding our ADC... and after that... it was pretty easy.

Now don't get me wrong, I love this game and sometimes the community is awesome. But you would think Riot could allow us the chance to boot someone off the team during champion selection? Of course you will get people who just boot someone off because they don't like their choice... but it's a risk I am willing to take!

asdbnmrty1/2/2015, 9:58:53 PM3 votes

Ranked essence is lost over the vast majority of players.

Ranked is the pinnacle competitive mode. We are suppose to bring our best out here to compete for victory; however, many players are not treating it as such. We are seeing AFK, raging, trolling, ect because people are simply not putting there best forward. For some people, something as small as an inconvenience can cause the player to throw everything out the window.

Coming from Diamond 5, majority of matches are played with all players doing their best. These are the most intense, focused, and ultimately satisfying (win or lose) matches I ever play in LOL. Trolling and such occurs on occasion as expected. My point is that the purpose of ranked definitely there.

The many problems are in the lower tiers. Many people love the good experiences, but simply can't handle the bad the naturally comes with it. A common toxicity is also people's perspective of how good they really are (tier and division position) and can't accept where they really are causing them to lash out.

What it comes down to is us as the community. Riot has influence over how seriously we take ranked by its structuring, but we ultimately determine how seriously we take ranked (and thus determine others as well as our own experiences with ranked). We complain to Riot about ranked but the root of the problem is with us.

And here is the paradox. There will always be a vast majority of worse players then there are better. We can say that Tier Gold and above are the most desired positions (since this is the minimum tier to earn the most season rewards), and Gold use to represent the top 10% of players (now it's top 25% due to saturation on how tiers work).

So how do you get the other 90% (now 75%) to play their best in ranked... when their rank is telling them they are not the best? Riot seems to have tried using the most recent iteration of Ranked to 'soften' the visualization (division and tiers) that they are not the best, but this just lead to the inflation of high end tiers and ultimately devaluing them. At the same time, lower players brainwash themselves from their real position with how they visually see their ranked, which against has been softened with many safeguards.

A lot of people argue going back to the old ELO system, but I would honestly say that most people can't emotionally handle seeing a hard number that solidifies that they are not the best.

So what is to be done? Personally, I don't know. Riot, being a business, definitely took the right step in softening Ranked by adding floaty divisions and tiers to give the players hope in thinking that they are better then they really are. They need to appeal to the widest audience after all. So the real question is how to further refine this, to make people take ranked seriously, and to add real value back into the tiers.

DarthSpectrum1/2/2015, 6:32:42 AM3 votes

I completely agree with you.

Frankly, I do not know how Riot does it, but I have better and more balanced games in normal than in ranked. In a ranked solo queue match, one side almost always stomps the other. Riot needs to accept that a team doesn't come together in draft mode in 60 seconds.

It would be great if they implement features to remove toxic players or deny a game without losing IP. Additionally, they need to fix the match making system to make the teams more balanced rather than finding the same average MMR. Perhaps it is just not enough people queuing for ranked, but for me, if I want a fair game I 'd chose normal.

Xtremey1/2/2015, 2:17:00 PM2 votes

and then there's the people that ban when you say "dont ban X pls" just to be a dick....

Balgoth1/3/2015, 12:58:22 AM2 votes

I completely agree. Riot needs to give the players more power to control this kind of negative behavior in ranked. I've made it to my silver 1 promo's at least 8 times this month and every single time I get a troll, a d/c, or something ridiculous happens (two AP xin's in row for the last one). Then if I show even the slightest sign of frustration I get "reported" by someone and I get thrown into the "troll" category and forced to play with the worst of LoL's community as a punishment for doing really nothing wrong. It's pretty shameful and sometimes makes me want to quit.

Arch Mage Magnus1/2/2015, 8:39:23 AM2 votes

Quite honestly, as much as Riot says they care about the player base, they really don't. As a Plat player, they MIGHT listen to you, for maybe 10 second. They are more interested in feedback from Master Tier - Challenger players. Issues that happen on the bronze - gold levels and so fourth don't really concern them. They are more interested in the player professional base than the casual gamer base.

SelflessTeammate1/2/2015, 3:31:36 PM2 votes

I started in Silver 1, finishing 7-3 and feeling pretty good. I was demoted twice.

I record games, so I watched the replays, went over entire games thinking what I could do differently, and while, primarily jungling, I'm used to being blamed for every single thing that goes wrong whether I had any conceivable control over it or not, I realized it's just the toxicity, which then affects everyone else. Top lane dies twice, someone decides to say something snarky. Top lane gets upset. Others join in. Somehow I get brought into it, upon which I become very generous with the mute button.

It's not the gameplay that makes Ranked so horrifying. It's what comes before people who intentionally feed, or leave, or in whatever way throw the game with their method of choice. Someone says one criticism a little too harshly and everyone plays far worse as a result.

I've never seen more instances of others assisting the enemy team intentionally than in just a few Ranked games. It's astonishing.

It's exceptionally rare that neither team suffers this, but oh man, those are memorable. Ever been in one of those games when everyone's actually trying as a team, remembering that it's a team game, not a contest to see who can get the most kills, being able to differentiate between this and a first-person shooter? Those are what make the game worth it. Even one among 20 normal games is gaming bliss. No toxicity at all, just an almost professional level of teamwork and encouragement. Like it should be.

GundamXionaz1/2/2015, 3:34:50 PM2 votes

Honestly, I just wish Riot could implement SOMETHING to fix these issues. I don't care if I have bad teammates, when it's based on skill. I just want to play the game and have an enjoyable experience. A great idea would be a ranked team builder, while yes it has its flaws, such as mirrior matches for champions and no ability to ban certain champions, seeing someone join the team to play Teemo support, you could at least instantly kick them out! How nice that would be.

While I totally understand about carrying the team if you a very high level plat/diamond player, I still would think those situations are very difficult to win if you are playing a 4v5 match and the enemy team has some level of coordination and skill.

Kledy McKledFace1/2/2015, 6:04:18 AM2 votes

the community isnt good.. If you play other games you know league of elgends is the worse thing on earth. Dont get caught by their publicity it aint working.

Problem is youre too dependant of your partners. You ahve 1 idiot or trash player in your team (because this matchmaking system is the worse on earth right now) and you automatically loose game except if the other team has 1 troll too....

Chortle1/2/2015, 6:13:34 PM2 votes

I don't think I have ever had a typical troll in any of my ranked matches.

Possibly because I try to fill with champs I know very well. I would rather let the person who calls "mid or feed" actually go mid and if he does poorly, try to help him achieve a more positive kda.

If a person goes straight into a game just to lose on purpose, report him and realize there was nothing you could have done to aid the situation.

asktiks1/2/2015, 4:44:10 PM2 votes

also to the people that say cary harder, l2p, get better whatever

I can be the most pro support out there, and if im not playing the teams adc, im not gonna be able to carry anything so what you are really telling me is , play adc or bust?

asktiks1/2/2015, 2:13:42 PM2 votes

bah divisions don't even mean shit anymore right now..

ive seen SOOOOO many terribad players ranked silver and up , doing ABC stuff that should be second nature at this point , yet they do the most idiotic things ever

90 percent of my ranked games are decided by the 15 min mark, and 90 percent of the time im thrown into blue side, with the worse of the worse, I mean im talking about getting a zed tower diving before lvl 10 to chase an extra kill, dying and feeding the rest of the game, then we got garen top , dying near six times to a darius (wich I think is broken as hell but that's another discussion) and by midgame hes pretty much unkillable , I go into both their profiles and both are ranked silver and up, enemy team has THREEE pre lvl 30s on their team, my silver ranked mates all have hundreds of games played, this kind of shit should be ABC basic, second nature stuff yet I see things in everygame that make me wonder if these people are either trolling or buying accounts because its ridiculous

TLDR : riots matchmaking sucks and divisions/ranked mean shit right now on this game...

I mean id never thought , really never ever thought I would say this ....but dotas 2 community is actually turning into the more mature one and way less toxic...and that's saying something considering dotas community has been seen as uber toxic forever, lately though...seems it migrated to this game and the non prick crowd is either playing something else or dota 2 , heroes of newerth is fine too just lots of baddies and ragers there too , their matchmaking is good though

i hate school1018/6/2016, 11:35:56 PM1 votes

I SO AGREE, I just realized that this post is old but still today in s6 its terrible. Ive played this game for about 6 months almost every day. And today Ive decided to basically quit this game. Im currently Silver 5 and i dont think my parents have ever seen me with a smile on my face while playing this game. The community is ABSOLUTELY terrible, and the game is just meh anyways. So game 3 of my promos to Silver 4 a couple days ago i had a Afk fiddle who dc'ed at 4 mins and a Gragas mid IN S6 like i said to this game ''Bruh 2 things, Its not s3 and your not Faker'' And of course u can guess how that game went. This might sound crazy but if league wasn't free it wouldnt be so terrible, Like half the multiplayer games that cost moneys communities are 5 times better than lols

PL551/2/2015, 4:00:18 PM1 votes

I got placed in Silver II, I played one game it was filled with trolls. I let my LP decay to Silver IV thinking it would be easier to carry, but it was still filled with trolls. No matter what I do it seems impossible to win because there is always someone who throws or just trolls in chat. My last ranked game I had a top laner who was spamming in chat and didn't cs at all so we lost that game.

S H A Y C 01/2/2015, 4:27:42 PM1 votes

I am in a constant state of promos for the next division... I sit at 85-96 pts. I win and bam I'm in my promos! Then I get stuck with turds...every time, soul crushing loss despite my efforts.

Konidias1/2/2015, 7:51:54 PM1 votes

I'm seeing a lot of "I was placed here and then got demoted multiple times" complaining posts and I have to say:

Uhh... just because you were placed at Silver 2 or something, doesn't mean that is where you really belong. Since placements work on 10 specific games, you could have gotten lucky in a few of those and gotten placed higher than you deserved. Therefore when you get into normal ranked games, you lose a lot and get demoted... Placements are NOT 100% accurate.

The very opposite could happen and you could get super unlucky in placements and get placed really low... and climb out easily because you are at a higher elo skill level.

People need to stop seeing ranked as some sort of WoW level up system. You can't just get Challenger by playing a lot of games. You have to improve your performance. Just because you get placed at some rank doesn't mean you belong there. Not one bit. Placements are just trying to get you in "sort of" the skill level you belong at. It can't be 100% accurate with such a small sampling of games (10)

Also there are trolls/feeders/afks at all levels of play, so stop using that as an excuse for not being able to climb.

Ariel the Cruel1/2/2015, 8:34:20 PM1 votes

. . .BWOOP BWOOP BWOOP BWOOP. . . "Code red! One of our own, by the name of GundamXionaz, has been spotted in ranked match making. Emergency sanity retention forces are to dispatch immediately. This is not a drill; I repeat, this is not a drill."

........................... {Later in the Hall of lobbies}

"We're too late. They already have a rank. Now they'll forever be trapped in that bottomless hell known as "the ladder". I'm sorry child."

The team captain reaches out to the poor soul with a hollow smile, the best he can muster.

"I'm afraid it's going to be a long hollow road from here. The trolls only get worse, and the toxicity only gets thicker. And now you'll forever be judged by this arbitrary title. You'll be shunned and scorned by others because their title "claims" they are above you."

He takes a breath and sighs. Barely able to hold back his personal shame.

"I know this isn't what you want to hear. We tried to warn you. But you need to understand what is to come. If you're ever to have a voice in this world now, you must climb the ladder. No matter how miserable. No matter toxic. No matter how strongly it pulls at your soul. There's no longer a choice. But it's not all bad. You can get strong so much faster now. And you can make new friends; ones who have followed this same path. And of course, we of the unranked society will always remain a light in the storm for those who haven't yet lost their mind."

With that he turns back to his team and with a sullen tone gives the order. "Return to base. Mission failed."

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kurufal1/3/2015, 1:59:49 AM1 votes

I think dodging alone needs to be bumped up to a 30 minute timeout, at least. Not 5 minutes. I main Akali when I play mid, and the recent rise in bans for her has made it hell to play her, even worse, when I do get her it usually ends in a dodge. only for her [and a couple of other champions to get banned] who were picked by others to be banned. Hecarim is hardly ever banned, but if they know someone on the other team was going to play him they will ban the crap out of him just for a win.

NoFunWithNunu1/3/2015, 11:38:22 PM1 votes

Summoner 3: ill take mid with zed Summoner 2: no, im yasuo mid Summoner 4: jungle quinn if im not going riven top Summoner 5: anything but jungle or support Summoner 1 proceeds to block yasuo, zed and morgana Summoner 3: WTF? no fizz ban? OMG im feeding GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG then proceeds to instalock gangplank, goes top, feeds and call his team noob

Again, the gaming comunity should have severe punishment (temp ban in short response times) since its not fun when you have games like this one, you see guys with 2-3 leaves in a row joining ranked like its nothing and then try to defend themself saying the have net problems, dude if you have a very bad pc, bad internet or you know you are having real life issues, DONT FUCKING JOIN RANKED it is your fault in the end if you know all that, int feeding with 600 ranked wins, afking at base, meanwhile ppl who takes ranked a bit serious and trained in normals to try to get that victorious skin are punished for not "try to carry" a feeder

Few days ago i had ago i had a 0/5/2 aatrox who called me stupid bitch because i took 1 kill, spend the match saying with his duo buddy udyr it was my fault for not giving him that one kill and refuses to push other lanes.

or a kog who was last pick in general, wanted adc and we allowed him to go adc with his duo buddy, enemy team had blitz and warwick and still went kog after we keep telling him is not a good idea, then blames me for the enemy team comp, ppl like this needs to be booted from ranked

xLegendary Troll1/4/2015, 5:04:02 AM1 votes

You just started playing ranked.

Welcome to the grind. Please shut the fuck up and take it up the ass like we all did to get to where we are now.

Thank you and have a nice day :-)