Evelynn losing hybrid scaling isn't justified
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Since Hybrid Evelynn seems to be the topic I see the most frequently I will give the context behind that first. Early on in development we decided that Evelynns Thematic Fantasy matched that of an Assassin, rather then a Diver. We believe that thematic cohesion is important for a champion so we committed to the Assassin gameplay direction rather than the changing her theme to match a diver pattern (we would have probably made her more visually tanky if we went that direction.) Assassins have always been difficult to balance in LoL and we have made great strides in our understanding of how to make healthy Assassins in LoL (Part of the reason her Ult isn't 2 parts is because attaching a Assassins damage to there escape makes them much healthier similar Ekko Ult.)
Hybrid builds tend to work pretty well on fighter/bruiser type champions but can be very problematic on Assassins, which is one of the reasons we can't balance Live Evelynn as an Assassin and also why Akali tends to be more of a top lane sustained fighter than a balanced Assassin. The first problem being that the burst gunblade gives will lead to us having to nerf Evelynn's base kit until it is healthy with gunblade and then she will basically be heavily pushed towards building a gunblade first every game (like Akali.) Even if we take gunblade out of the equation the type of pattern hybrid builds lead to (stick to a target and chase them down) would likely lead us to nerfing Evelynn's burst damage at which point she would have a much harder time functioning as an Assassin. Her current kit would be much weaker as a diver/bruiser so that would leave her in a bad state that we don't think would really be great for Eve or Eve players in the long term.
While I know it feels like we don't care about Eve mains, we do care, its just that we also care about Evelynns future. We feel it will be worse if she ends up unhealthy for the game and then we have to nerf her over and over until she can't function as a Assassin anymore which is something we feel has a high chance of happening if she remained hybrid. We don't feel like that would be great for current or new eve mains in the future.
There's so many problems here like...
Reav has the entirely wrong idea of what hybrid means here. He's thinking Kayle, Kog'Maw, Jax in terms of Hybrid but Evelynn isn't like them at all...
Evelynn CANNOT run up and just DPS people down because she doesn't have the tools to do so. You start building tanky on Evelynn and your damage just becomes non-existent. Now that she no longer has a massive A/S steroid this is even more true cause she can't DPS with AAs. Current Evelynn builds Gunblade and is fine right now O-O... Other assassins like Katarina, Ekko and Fizz (once in awhile) also build gunblade and are fine.
Akali is stupid because of her kit not because of gunblade (the synergy is stupid tho). Who thought it was a good idea to give an ASSASSIN giant amounts of sustain while also being entirely point click? Akali has numerous mechanics that help her stay alive with her stealth/blink, dashes, and sustain. Live Evelynn only has her ultimate and new Evelynn will only have her ultimate. So you can't compare the two champions like AT ALL.
Why do they have to nerf Evelynn if Gunblade synergizes well with her? Gunblade is a super expensive item 3400g so it's not easy to get. If you fall behind early you're kinda screwed and Gunblade's damage begins to fall off.
It just depends on the kit. Kat doesn't have any great ways to stick to a target and weave in auto attacks + AP damage. Eve's Q and her E lend itself to a bruiser/sustained fighter pattern if she builds that way, which wouldn't be super healthy for the rest of her kit. While Kat is an Assassin her kit is much closer to a Mage than many other assassins.
Now that you guys removed Evelynn's giant A/S boost (I'm fine with that) she won't be able to auto attack as much either. Any assassin that spends too much time auto attacking is dying really soon. I'll say this again, bruiser / sustained fighter patterns don't work on Evelynn because she has no defensive steroids. Current Evelynn doesn't have enough base damage to go bruiser, new Evelynn has even less to go bruiser.
First up let's look at new Evelynn's Q 45(+30AP) then 45(+30%AP) 3 times. Total damage is 180(+1.20%AP) over about 3-4s If you get amplified Q damage it's 305(+1.80%AP) over about 3-4s. If you don't build AP that damage is utter GARBAGE and won't put a dent into any champion. You NEED AP in order to get this ability to deal meaningful damage.
Next her W is only good for assassinating. If you're staying in the middle of a fight as a bruiser you're never going to get off the magic resist shred and will be left with a powerful but not as useful slow that doesn't deal damage.
Her E is 90 +4% max health... That's shit for any bruiser... Evelynn needs to go back into stealth to make the most out of it, if you're going back into stealth and going in and out you might as well go assassin. By the way. Why does an assassin have % max health damage... [sg-lux-2]
Finally her ultimate does a ton of base damage so she has that going for her I guess. Like what the fuck is that base damage :| Still, as a bruiser you'll never get the chance to use it to execute because you'd be dead. Evelynn bruiser doesn't work, not enough defensive abilities to work, not enough stick potential. She. Does. Not. Work. Bruiser.
Anyways. Reav didn't successful justify removing Evelynn's ability to build hybrid. Give Evelynn some AD ratios please thank you. How about some on her ultimate, we can take away from AP for some AD because 800 base damage. At least put some on her E that is a physical attack. I'd GLADLY ditch the % health damage for AD ratios, sacrificing her jungle clear for AD ratios. By the way... although live Evelynn has AD ratios a majority of players build proto belt...
Please Riot @-@!! You gave Warwick his AP ratio on Q which was amazing!! Please give Evelynn some AD ratios!! [sg-soraka]
On a side-note... Love the magic resist reduction on her W and I'm glad Riot hasn't ditched that mechanic :D
viabel": no, its a troll build. Unlike Old ww which had a big range on his q and only the ap scaling, new warwick ahs to get close to his targets and has an ad ratio now too. Why you should build ap if you can increase it with ad too? Its nearly the same why tristana or mf should build ap or why katarina should build ad.
I tend to liek build ap warwick ina ram cause you could dealt a lot of damage from a safe distance without going. Now while trying to get in q range you probably gonan get hit hard with poke or cc. Adcs can kite you. Ap warwick is so much worse similar to how ap tristana is now so much worse since her rework with the reworked e.
can have double scalings cause there other form sucks. You have not built ap and ad on old eve, you have buil either ap or ad and it was ok. Warwick having a q ap ratio makes ap warwick not full viabel. It just makes
a better purchase and having baronbuff, infernal drakes and elder (all give increased ad AND ap) more meaningfull. Still rageblade is a rsky warwick item and probably more of a niche itembuild. But not as troll as nashors tooth/full ap warwick. Katarina on th other Hand only builds
and maybe a
vs ap matchups or an
in an ad matchup. The rest of her is just ap.
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(once in awhile) can build Gunblade as well". Ok, gonna throw
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there in too. Now you cry about evelynn not having an ad ratio but nearly none of them has any too beside Katarina. Fizz q deals 100% of his ad cause it works like an atuo and implies onhit and his w. You self said "just once in a while". Most Ekkos and Fizz build Protobelt for the health, cdr, cheapprice, mobility and waveclear. You see maybe ekko splitpush with Gunblade cause he already has huge mobility and some SAFE waveclear with his q. But Fizz, the only one beside katarina with an ad ratio, is the most likely candidate of the 4 others to not build Gunblade.
Yea,
is stupid cause of her kit. She has no waveclear so a protobelt could be fine on her. But with her sustain and mobility she already has (like ahri but more extreme), not needing mana and having an ad ratio on passive and e gunblade is just insane strong on her nad a must buy, even on tank akali.