Janna: Eye of the Storm (E) shield duration changed from 5 seconds to [decays over 5 seconds]
Karma: Inspire (E) shield duration lowered from 4 seconds to 2.5 seconds
Lulu: Help, Pix! (E) ally shield duration lowered from 6 seconds to 2.5 seconds
Orianna: Command: Protect (E) shield duration lowered from 4 seconds to 2.5 seconds
PopcornBunni53 votesJanna gets a slap on the wrist while all the other enchanters get fucking bodied
Love it, never change riot.
Harden Stepback15 votesriots favourite is janna, im not surprised
Ariel the Cruel5 votesThe others also have a lot more going for them. (>_>)
Sire Hippington50 votesDon't forget that janna has her AD-buff tied to the shield beeing on, so less livetime on the shield(and a decay usually leads to a much lower lifetime on the shield) is less uptime of that buff aswell. The others have the duration of the aditional effects seperate from the shield.
Hong Kong Annie1 votesLulu gives her passive to allies with the shield, but hers is still drastically reduced.
Ariel the Cruel12 votesPix stays with allies after the shield breaks. Janna's buff is only applied while the shield is intact.
Hong Kong Annie1 votesOnly for the duration of the shield though, which is now 2.5 seconds.
Terozu6 votesNo, the pix buff stays after the shield ends.
LordGeovanni1 votesI think he was referring to the attack speed portion. But i dont believe that the attack speed portion is tied to the shield uptime but rather it was activated the same duration as the shields uptime. The shields uptime is being nerfed but i dont see anything on the attack speed buff uptime
My Waifu Vanilla4 votesHer attack speed buff is a different ability.......its her W.
Glasss of Water7 votesYeah but the rest are also not reliant on their shield to be a factor. As great as Janna’s knockup and slow are, she’s pretty much a shield bot. She needs a rework not a nerf.
Weiss Guertena29 votesOut of those, Janna's shield is the only one which loses its associated buffs when broken. When Karma's shield is broken, target still has a MS buff. When Lulu's and Orianna's shields are broken, their companions stay on the target for the full duration.
Janna's is still nerfed, tho in a different manner; instead of lasting shorter it's easier to break. And arguably it's a harder nerf that way. But since Janna is apparently Satan incarnate and anything short of straight out deleting her from the game is "a slap on the wrist" according to the community that might fly over people's heads.
NocturnalSheild5 votesJanna gets a slap on the wrist while all the other enchanters get fucking bodied
Love it, never change riot.
To be fair janna IS her shield.
They nerf it. They nerf janna in her entirety.
Where as lulu brings alot more than just her shield to the table.
ChaddyFantome5 votesTo be fair janna IS her shield.
They nerf it. They nerf janna in her entirety.
Where as lulu brings alot more than just her shield to the table.
Yea, Lulu's shield isnt even the primary reason you play her.
Marothennan4 votesFucking polymorph...
Terozu4 votesUp you go!
big boi edri4 votesIt's probably because janna has the buff tied to her shield
The Yetii Rider7 votesJanna is different because Janna's Eye of the Storm gives her target Attack Damage for the duration.
If you cut Eye of the Storm's duration, Janna does not provide enough damage to her team even when she is played well.
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesIf at all the AD buff needs to be removed completely. On the fact alone it goes against every of riots "philosophies" especially the one about invisible power. No fuckin joke until last season (i play since season 1) i didn't even know janna shield gives a bf sword worth of AD.
It Hertz When IP7 votesIt isn't invisible. There's an expectation that you, the player, will bother to do some research on how other champions work. For the entire time that Janna's allies have an AD buff, there's a white shield hovering around them. That's not "invisible power", that's buffing an ally. Might as well complain that Ori's ball gives defensive stats, or that Lulu's pixie adds on-hit damage. I'm honestly not sure how you made it this far without even reading the ability descriptions of one of the oldest and simplest champions in the game, but I'd suggest budgeting some time to sit down and do so for at least the most popular picks.
Terozu3 votesThen you have me, the guy who goes AD janna top.
Edge of Daybreak36 votesOh my god. Real talk if these nerfs have the desired effect We will probably see some assassin nerfs too and a nice dent in this powerflood we have been having. Win-Win.
Herald Est Mors33 votesmuch needed nerfs
Bondage Bunnyboy27 votesJesus, they're nerfing Karma when she's already basically a worse Sona.
Automated Riven13 votesI imagine that they are simply fixing the problem with shields being too good and hopefully will adjust the power after.
DW Diana3 votes[{quoted}](name=Faerie Sovereign,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=p41HxtE7,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-06-05T04:15:17.241+0000)
Jesus, they're nerfing Karma when she's already basically a worse Sona.
True but if they nerf her shielding then they can put power into the rest of her kit making her midlane viable again. I know it's a trade off but it's a potentially good one :)
Skeletons Grave3 votessona doesnt get played in the mid lane on a regular basis. Karma is the go to safe mid lane support. Great wave clear, poke and has kill pressure against immobile champs.
jocomotion20 votesWell deserved 
Ok I guess 
I mean she actually needs a buff, but at least she’s not too shield reliant 
What in the actual fuck. Not even a compensation buff 
SociopathFriend18 votes
Magic shield duration increased to 5 seconds from 3.
Oh geez WHY? The item is cancerous enough against anyone who can rush it into an AP match-up. It doesn't need a longer shield to make the slugfest even harder to win. They already get lifesteal and spellvamp so long as they're fighting literally anything.
The Bearded Bard10 votesI don't think Orianna should be lumped in with the rest of them. She's a mid lane mage, not a bot lane support.
PrinceOfStorms7 votesAnd she's really irritating to play against, just like Janna and Lulu, though I would have been satisfied with a huge increase to the mana cost on Command: Protect.
Azadethe2 votesHer shield isn't why she's irritating to play against, and is almost never used on allies. Ball is usually used offensively to harass enemies and keep them at a range.
What makes her irritating is the fact she gains insane AP > Auto attack conversion and has a 1 skill ult. Her shield basically behaves like Viktor's.... who is FAR stronger with it.
Z3Sleeper11 votesThe only reason the autos are a problem though is because of the shield that makes it safe to walk up and auto for free.
Chicken or the egg my dude.
Azadethe2 votesBut without the shield, she can't even exist or use half her kit.
Z3Sleeper9 votesIt's not gone, it's just not up for 4 seconds.
It's still usable, after all it doesn't take enemies 4 seconds to pop the shield even in laning phase, it just means she has to time it now.
Also the ball remains attached to someone after the shield duration is over anyway if that's what you were referring to.
Daddy Ants4 votesMy question is as follows
Why are the others getting flat duration reductions but Janna escapes with "decaying" over it's full duration.
Can you stop showing preferential treatment to Janna please, Riot?
As I doubt riot's actually touching any of the damage numbers afterwards, the damage creep of this game continues stronger than ever.
Seriously, if you plan to make nerfs this big to the class that essentially holds Zed, Talon etc. back from being perma-banned, you might wanna touch some of the offensive runes while at it, too.
As much I think these changes need to happen.
I totally agree with the Zed and Talon comment.
I can see them being perm banned.
Rhai19 votesProbably due to the ad Jannas E gives as long as the shield remains
Weiss Guertena9 votesIt's probably because AD buff on Janna's shield lasts only as long as shield holds. Karma, Lulu and Orianna all provide buffs with their shields too, but those buffs always last the full duration whether the shield is broken or not.
Would you have rather had Janna's shield duration reduced but with AD buff always lasting the full 5 seconds? It's still a sizeable nerf, just in a different way - making shield easier to break rather than having it expire faster.
Tesladin3 votesThats horrible
Shields take skill to use and this makes them far less rewarding
HowAboutWeNaut11 votesThis is a joke right? [sg-lux-2]
Tesladin5 votesIt takes skill to shield your ADC just before they're about to take damage
IxtaliKing14 votesReducing the duration of shields emphasizes timing. So the gameplay you're referring to here is being made clearer.
Tesladin2 votesMy problem with it is, in case you miss, the shield has less chance of paying off. So you have less motivation of getting right something that already takes alot of effort to use right. Because if you don't get it just right, you'll be punished for having had wasted it entirely more likely than before.
IxtaliKing11 votesBut that's where skill (timing) comes in.
The shields are currently very forgiving for the caster, especially when you throw 45% CDR into the mix.
Riot has a good reason for what they're doing here, i see that even as a Karma main. It's not as bad as it looks (I've tested it on PBE), especially if Riot ends up compensating them.
