@RIOT Would it make sense to make a support/fill requirement for duo queueing in solo queue ranked?

Dehitay··2 votes·248 views

To be perfectly honest, with dynamic queue coming out right next to it in season 7, I was hoping we would be getting true solo queue like we were originally promised back at the beginning of season 6. But apparently, not as many people think true solo is better than solo/duo as I had thought. The main reason they cite for wanting duos is for duo bot lanes. Which is what gives me this idea.

If somebody wants to join solo/duo as a ranked, then either they or their partner could be required to have support or fill as their primary or secondary. At the beginning of season 6, Riot said they predicted there may be some problems with a lack of players picking support and they would consider adding incentives for support picks, but to my knowledge, there hasn't been any incentives all year. This seems like an ideal incentive. In order to play as a team in solo queue, one of you should be required to pick support or fill cause while that doesn't garuntee the support position, it it's more likely than not. And support is the position most reliant on teamwork by far.

This seems like it would be best cause then support is more likely to have a teammate likely to work with him when it's a highly teamwork reliant position, and it gives a very decent incentive for support/fill picks.

Actually, now that I think about it, it could also be a requirement for one member of any size premade in flex ranked to have a support/fill preference for the same reasons. The premade will be more likely to have the superior teamwork and support is a teamwork reliant position. And it gives an incentive for support/fill picks.

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Eevee In A Jar1 votes

A real good incentive is to not choke hold us on shitty double standards and forcing us to pick from a small limited champ pool. You can just about bring any champion to any lane except bot lane without your teammates getting their panties in a bunch. The problem would be fixed if let's say I want to go Lee Sin support, then I should want to go Lee Sin support. I'll still build support items but I just want to play different champion. Not play the same shit over and over and over again playing for the same ingrates at the League community who take support players for granted.

But you know what, you bring this up and the league community will shit on you for "Not picking what is team oriented" even if the rest of the team won't shed that same sentiment towards you. Yeah because Teemo, Jax, Shaco, Nasus are so reliant on team effort. Those picks get through just fine but nah you pick Taliyah support (and it works) and people still talk shit in game.

I picked Ivern support not too long ago; was working. Only lane winning in our team. No biggie just norms. Mid opposing Fizz camps bot for 5 minutes straight. The Lulu who's 1/4/1 and I'm 0/2/5 starts bitching about how useless I am. This is how 90% of games go even if you pick a good support champ people wouldn't mind. So why the fuck should any of us bother to pick what people want if we're gonna get shitted on anyways?

DrCyanide1 votes

I don't think it would make sense to ask for that.

Duos already have an incentive to have one of them play support, if they're planning on playing Bot Lane together.

Solo players are the ones slacking in the "just pick support" scenario. They want to solo carry games so they can climb, and they feel they can't do that as support. It'd make more sense to force Solos to support 1/5 games, making them pull their fair share and drastically reducing queue times, than to try and kill off Duos that weren't planning on going Bot.

Dehitay2 votes

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I don't think it would make sense to ask for that.

Duos already have an incentive to have one of them play support, if they're planning on playing Bot Lane together.

Solo players are the ones slacking in the "just pick support" scenario. They want to solo carry games so they can climb, and they feel they can't do that as support. It'd make more sense to force Solos to support 1/5 games, making them pull their fair share and drastically reducing queue times, than to try and kill off Duos that weren't planning on going Bot.

It's not really incentive if there's even more incentive for them to both play a solo lane each if they both think they can carry and win 2 lanes instead of one. Honestly, think about it. If there was really a good incentive for premades to grab the support position, they would be doing it. And since pretty much every game has a premade in it, then support wouldn't be so hard to fill.

There's a very valid reason solo players feel that they can't carry as support. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T! Since solo players are mandatory for filling games and premades are completely voluntary, premades should be the one to fill the least popular role. Especially in solo queue where I'm not even sure why duos are allowed since duo is an option in dynamic/flex queue.

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