I understand we're all excited for the death of Yasuo and Lee Sin

AhmCha··40 votes·2,284 views

But please don't let your excitement lure you into being an inconsiderate human being and banning your teammates hovered pick, even if it is one of those two. All that does is stir up trouble unnecessarily.

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abca9834 votes

If my teammate wanted to play Yasuo, I wouldn't ban him. Mostly because I would have already dodged.

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

Me when i see teemo or vayne hovered/picked.

FeelsCampedMan2 votes

You must dodge quite often then

Blåbæret2 votes

I dodge on a daily basis due to Yasuo actually.

Mordepool19 votes

200% banrate has to send a message to Riot

Skorch9 votes

"We see that Yasuo has a 200% banrate, and so we have made it so that he cant be banned... so we can gather info on him for his rework" but no changes came

Mordepool2 votes

Riot makes a habit of ignoring the main issue/problem with lots of kits in favor of nerfing surperflous parts of the kits. Perhaps this will effect change that's healthy for the game

SociopathFriend1 votes

Well the thing is- in order for something to be so problematic- it tends to be a core part of the kit. So it's harder to make changes.

Imagine trying to balance Shaco around a new Q.

Mordepool2 votes

That's what reworks are for improving counterplay and redesigning core part of champion kits while still delivery on thematic fantasies

Skorch1 votes

Another issue, especially with Yasuos case. Is Riot thinks they can keep a kit balanced. And i do kind of understand reworks are a LAST resort.

Mordepool1 votes

More like FIRST chance for redemption.

ˉˉˉˉˉˉ2 votes

Remove passive shield and/or reduce Windwall up-time. Done. Balanced.

Those two are what make Yasuo tilting to play against, on top of his already annoying kit.

ChaosThief1 votes

It seems more like they want to see if some hidden synergy within the kit is the problem instead of just aiming directly at the problem.

In other words, break the arms and legs instead of cutting off the head, I guess.

Mordepool1 votes

At some point something has to give

Sqkerg9 votes

That mob mentality is a bitch

Hèntaî 8 votes

If you have a team that instabans your pick then that is team you probably dont want to be on imo.

IPromiseTomorrow6 votes

Yea dude

Yasuo haters can be as much of a dick as the toxic people that you see on league

Why do Yasuo haters get exceptions is what I don't get

<.<

Steelflame3 votes

Because we have all had those 1/15 Yasuos who are toxic fuckwads. Yasuo, Riven, Lee Sin, and Vayne (And to a lesser extent Yi, although he tends to be less of an issue just due to low pick rate unless OP) all attract players who tend towards high toxicity in games because they are all champions that have potential to virtually solo-carry a game. Combo that with the fact that when they are good they can get to 40%+ pick rates rather easily (Not counting bans), it's easy to see why people hate them. They always either feed so hard that they lose the game for you hands down, or they end up 10/0 and you may as well not be playing because you are sure not doing anything that game that is going to have an impact compared to them. Or worst of all, you end up with one with a score like 16/15/0 where they go "I'm not feeding, I have a positive KDA!" who has effectively inflated the gold on the entire enemy team and throws the lead they had built while they complain about their team doing no damage because they are all an entire item behind the enemy team almost. And before you say a score like 16/15 isn't bad, it means they have given approx 5000-6000 gold to the enemy team, while having obtained something in the range of 3500-4500 personal gold from the kills.

IPromiseTomorrow2 votes

Yea dude I know. But people just label that very poor decision making as "yas main"

That gold inflation you've mentioned probabably has been tacked onto Yasuo mains already.

These labels were for fun and yea I like them. I just hate the toxic people who bash my champ. So jokes from a toxic person have never made anyone laugh outright (Look at real life) And I can't defend anyone labeled and profiled through the eyes of memes and jokes. Jokes are ok rest is ok.

But I can't defend the outlandish hate from toxic players. To the reform centers with them. How they become a Tyler1 deep down. But that's in the future.

Nice chat btw ^^

Steelflame1 votes

I don't harass them, I almost never ban out their pick (Unless its a very meta pick and they are very late on the pick order, sorry, but I'm not risking that pick going to the enemy team, you'll just have to deal), but I'm just saying where the perception comes from.

IPromiseTomorrow1 votes

Yea dude I ain't directed at you. I mostly mentioned the crap and saying what it turns into when it's not dealt with. One step at a time Plus people talking and chatting is great.

You're cool dude ^^

Hèntaî 1 votes

I just had a game with a toxic jg who kept telling me not to play yas again cause I was matched against a fi. In my defense I outfarmed her and I outplayed her and her team with baits dancing around like an inflatable tube man

IPromiseTomorrow1 votes

Ya dude Keep playing Yasuo Make sure you do well.

As for your jungler all I can say is He was probably tilted

Leetri1 votes

Those kind of people exists for all champions. I've seen super toxic Sorakas and Karthuses too that feed all game and don't contribute.

Steelflame1 votes

Oh no, they exist for everyone, no doubt. They just are far more common in certain champion playerbases, of which the ones I listed have some of the highest rates of toxicity. They almost always fall within the top 10 for most toxic playerbases, and to boot have an absolutely high play rate if strong. As far as support champions go, both Sona and Soraka also tend toward the higher toxicity levels (relative to their class).

Supreme Senpai691 votes

I dunno about others but anytime someone wants to be Yasuo or Lee I look them up. And usually see a sub 30% win rate. And so I ban them and say it was an accident to avoid them from getting upset or tilted. But why would I bet my LP on a 30% chance? If they have a 50% win rate I'll def let 'em have it.

IPromiseTomorrow2 votes

There are moments in ranked that call for great measures. He'll no would I trust a sub 30% WR yasuo or any champ. You probably saved yourself 20 to an hour of your life m8. So I don't mind the fact that you did something quite bad for something greater.

Can't make a house without a tree. Can't have insects live in your house all over.

P.S. I won't change anything from what I've stated before ^^

deadlychuck6 votes
Lauchmelder5 votes

If the guy hovering it is first pick sure. (And I mean literal first pick, not team first pick)

Otherwise screw Yasuo.

13900 Essence5 votes

Having one feeding on your team is always worse than having one smashing on the other team.

sirwaterfles3 votes

Or the worst ones yet; the one that gets one nice accidental outplay in a 1v3 and continues to 1v5 for the rest of the game.

KoKoboto3 votes

I'll just do the ol' fake out. "Whoops sorry was alt tabbed".

AwesomeGuyDj1 votes

or the "wasnt paying attention and ran out time"

Reaper Soraka3 votes

Sorry Mao players. He's perma-banned for me until riot changes sapling damage to not stack.

Once he gets teemo'd (but still much better than teemo) he can play again. :P

AwesomeGuyDj2 votes

No, because NINETY NINE PERCENT OF THE FUCKING TIME WHEN MY TEAM HAS A YAS HE FEEDS. I had a yasuo who built fucking stattik shiv first once. Didnt even build phantoms at all. THERE FUCKING HECARIM BUILT PD BEFORE OUR YASUO DID. My team was litterally like "we should have just banned yasuo"

EvanThomas6 votes

Statikk shiv and PD are very similar, the only difference being a tradeoff between some damage reduction (PD) and some burst (SS). He wasn't necessarily wrong to build Shiv. You seem to think that PD is the only zeal item Yasuo should ever build, but you're wrong.

LyingOnLine2 votes

I will totes ban my team yas because my team yas is meme yas.

rtbf2216514122 votes

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But please don&#039;t let your excitement lure you into being an inconsiderate human being and banning your teammates hovered pick, even if it is one of those two. All that does is stir up trouble unnecessarily.

Then you mention you were actually the 10th to pick.

KVbqbFsC8e2 votes

That likely depends on pick order.

ˉˉˉˉˉˉ2 votes

Screw you, blue team Yasuo red team Lee Sin, screw Yasuo.

Give me all the downvotes, I don't care. Screw Yasuo.

Ozzie Storm2 votes

unless he's 1st pick he's bye bye

BakedLotion2 votes

You're acting like he'll feed less as Yasuo than any other champion.

Always ban Yasuo when team mates hover over him.

Sarchiapon1 votes

Man, you get it all wrong. i'm going to permaban Yasuo EXACTLY to prevent the usual feeder to send him top against a tank that would crush him 5/0 by minute 7. What were you thinking?

ThePikol1 votes

The whole point of banning Yasuo is preventing to heve him in your team

Dukues1 votes

Not sure what elo you in but in mine it's a blessing if you ban those champs even if your teammate wants to play them. At this point I would rather have someone dodge than play with them as Yasuo or LeeSin. And if they going to troll then they better bring their A game because I am willing to ride with them to the gates of hell. I am not afraid of a loss to leave a very detailed report.

TyroneWatermelon1 votes

Ah hell naw, I ban what I want and I don't want to see these 2 cockroaches on my games. I'm sure their mains can play another champ of the 130+

Sniperkaj1 votes

90 % of the reason i ban Lee is not to have him on my team. I'm very good at playing lategame, but Lee is awful late - and there is no way in hell a Lee main will listen to me and instead pick a scaling champ, because "me make Insec play". Only a Lee onetrick with 55%+ winrate is allowed to play him on my team.

GoronMuncherV1 votes

When I see one on my team I just accept the harsh reality: they'll either hard carry my team or hard carry their team :/

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