Haven't even fixed Edge of Night, and people already want more broken items...

Mira Arya Enthe·Feb 21, 2017·21 votes·1,301 views

Boards "We need an AP upgrade for QSS" Oh goodie, just what AP Ez, Kassadin, Katarina, LeBlanc, Fizz, Ekko, Ahri and Teemo need, the ability to break CC. We haven't even finished dealing with the current game breaking items and people want more. Can we fix the current problems before adding more?

Right before the lethality buffs mages were taking over every role anyway. The only reason mages AREN'T OP right now is EoN and the stupid broken AD itemization. Let's fix that then bother with stupid new broken shit.

Disclaimer: I cannot remember the last time I built a QSS, the champions I play mostly just don't use it. This idea is just dumb, no bias even needed.

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LankPantsFeb 21, 20173 votes

Boards "We need an AP upgrade for QSS" Oh goodie, just what AP Ez, Kassadin, Katarina, LeBlanc, Fizz, Ekko, Ahri and Teemo need, the ability to break CC. We haven't even finished dealing with the current game breaking items and people want more. Can we fix the current problems before adding more?

I've always took the exact opposite stance on this. We need to not have an AD upgrade for QSS. There's no good reason for a Zed, Talon, Irelia or any ADC to be able to break a CC with no real tradeoffs.

What needs to be done IMO is remove Merc Scim and make QSS cost ~1700 gold and give 50 MR. That way it's a more neutral item with a huge tradeoff for anyone who wants it.

Mira Arya EntheFeb 21, 20174 votes

I could back this. Better yet, make it have 25 armor and 25 mr. So it is even more neutral.

Tychusfindlay919Feb 21, 20171 votes

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I could back this. Better yet, make it have 25 armor and 25 mr. So it is even more neutral.

Remember when there was a trade off for getting item 3123 ?

It was slot inefficient late game because it never upgraded, but it countered sustain really well, it filled a niche.

Now asshole ADCs and assassins (and we'll see ADCs pop up again. Before the lethality fiasco, ADCs were a pain in everyone's ass because they dominated late game too damn hard) get to bend over sustain based champions with no tradeoff because this thing exists item 3033

Mecha MaIphiteFeb 21, 20172 votes

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Mira Arya EntheFeb 21, 20171 votes

Valve balancing wouldn't work in LoL as champions in LoL are more often than not redundant with several other champions of the same class/role. Unlike in DOTA 2 Where champions better fill specific niches so everything being OP is fine everyone always has a role.

AhristocatsFeb 21, 20171 votes

icefrog doesn't balance like that, and if you don't believe me take a look at every patch to see the amount of batnerfs

Sahn UzalFeb 21, 20172 votes

People seriously need to stop comparing AD itemisation to AP itemisation Riot made sure there are a lot of differences between the 2. Stop asking for an AP version of AD Item or an AD version of AP Item It's not gonna happen, for a good reason.

I started copy pasting this comment whenever I see one of those threads.

PennsFeb 21, 20171 votes

I mean, I feel like qss is a tool that everyone should be able to use and upgrade except for tanks, not just AD champs. Every class is gonna get WW or Malz ulted or just ccd.

Mira Arya EntheFeb 21, 20171 votes

Maybe, maybe not. But let's fix all the shitty item, mastery and balance mess currently in the game before adding new factors.

Maddened King Feb 21, 20171 votes

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I mean, I feel like qss is a tool that everyone should be able to use and upgrade except for tanks, not just AD champs. Every class is gonna get WW or Malz ulted or just ccd.

Malzahar item 3070 mid malz has been through enough.

BlackFluxFeb 21, 20171 votes

lethality nerfs are going to come in a day or so but..it only reduces item 3142 lethality by 5 and removes the .5 lethality(which basically just means you will have a whole number lethality and that's it,no actual damage change through any armor)from the lethality mastery,and I think one of the %lethality items got buffed to match its counterparts item 3033 or something...

SpoofghoulFeb 21, 20171 votes

i want qss item for tanks

qssmogs

1000 hp 10% cdr 50 mr 200% regen warmogs hearth Unique active quicksilver active

and then we just need a zhonyasmogs

1000 hp 20% cdr 50 armor 200% regen Warmogs hearth Unique active Stasis

And a warmogsrot portal

1000 hp 55 armor 55 mr 350% regen warmogs hearth Unique active warmogsportal spawns really really fat voidlings with insane healthpools and healthregen so they can't decay at all