Anyone remember Gnar?

KONO RUBICK DA·Sep 5, 2015·5 votes·610 views

because i just had a Darius doing 0/2 at 8 min against Gnar

why don't people remember the true counter of bruisers?

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Indominus BladeSep 5, 20153 votes

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because i just had a Darius doing 0/2 at 8 min against Gnar

why don't people remember the true counter of bruisers?

They prefer to QQ on the forums/boards.

BattleOxeSep 5, 20152 votes

Because Gnar got nerfed few times in a row. Basicly, just like after nerf irelia. No one play it till it starts stomping them again. And since no one play it, how can it stop them?

KONO RUBICK DASep 5, 20151 votes

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Because Gnar got nerfed few times in a row. Basicly, just like after nerf irelia. No one play it till it starts stomping them again. And since no one play it, how can it stop them?

Gnar nerfs were only passive duration, he still have permaslow, something like 14% hp magic damage, and on the top of that. he can go full tanks and take titanic hydra while giving tons of cc

BattleOxeSep 5, 20151 votes

increase Q CD?

redniwediSSep 5, 20152 votes

The true counter to bruisers you say? Lissandra

MimySep 5, 20151 votes

Gnar

is one of my favorite top laners.. but I main botlane more or less..

FadedpfSep 5, 20151 votes

Not with the Gnars I play with. He takes a lot of skill to play, I hate seeing a gnar lose because he is in MELEE RANGE while in RANGED FORM. Gnar might give juggernauts a hard time in lane if he is good but they definitely are more reliable and have stupidly good scaling. Getting a perfect Gnar ult and being in mega form at the perfect time is hard. All Darius and Garen have to do is press buttons and execute people while not dying at all.

PennsSep 5, 20151 votes

Because Mini Gnar is squishy and gets punished hard. That Darius probably just sucked lelel.

Trash MammaISep 5, 20151 votes

True counter of bruisers = anybody ranged with mobility.. Gnar Kalista Lissandra etc. Can't touch them but they can touch you

DarthSpectrumSep 5, 20151 votes

Darius can simply just pull Gnar in whenever he goes for some AA harass. I am surprised he didn't do that.

Even though Gnar can hop out, Darius's Apprehend now also applies a short CC, during which Darius can cast W and put a 90% slow on Gnar. Even if Gnar does jump out, Darius can easily catch up and finish off the trade with a Q.

Mega-Gnar might beat Darius early game, but post 6 Darius can win in an all in. Just like Gnar gets an immense boon once he transforms, Darius too gets much more powerful when he activates Noxian Might. The two would be equal in power, except Darius only needs to bring Gnar to around ~40% health to kill him.

Not to mention, Darius has 2 to 3 times the passive regeneration of Gnar, and often builds Hydra to further increase his sustain. Gnar's burst of health from transforming is also out classed by Darius's Q heal. Especially since Darius's Q is currently bugged, it can heal 60% missing health if it hits 3 people.

KONO RUBICK DASep 5, 20151 votes

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Darius can simply just pull Gnar in whenever he goes for some AA harass. I am surprised he didn't do that.

Even though Gnar can hop out, Darius's Apprehend now also applies a short CC, during which Darius can cast W and put a 90% slow on Gnar. Even if Gnar does jump out, Darius can easily catch up and finish off the trade with a Q.

Mega-Gnar might beat Darius early game, but post 6 Darius can win in an all in. Just like Gnar gets an immense boon once he transforms, Darius too gets much more powerful when he activates Noxian Might. The two would be equal in power, except Darius only needs to bring Gnar to around ~40% health to kill him.

Not to mention, Darius has 2 to 3 times the passive regeneration of Gnar, and often builds Hydra to further increase his sustain. Gnar's burst of health from transforming is also out classed by Darius's Q heal. Especially since Darius's Q is currently bugged, it can heal 60% missing health if it hits 3 people.

darius apprehend range was nerfed, hook-> jump they have the same cd

after the grab is on cd, gnar can slow him and aa him with bonus ms because yes gnar has bonus ms don't forget to mention it.

also, gnar has way way way more damage then darius just with basic spells damage. Q-W, melee W- and R

DarthSpectrumSep 5, 20151 votes

Darius has 550 range on apprehend. Mini - Gnar's AA range is around 425. If Gnar is AAing Darius, Darius can pull Gnar and do the combo I mentioned earlier.

Mini Gnar has the lowest HP in League, Darius can decimate him.

I know that Gnar gets a MS boost from Hyper when he procs it, but Darius has a higher base MS and builds item 3044 , item 3143 , and item 3742 almost every time.

As well, Darius's slow is far more potent than Gnar's boomerang slow.

Of course, Darius's Apprehend is a skill shot after all, and Riot has bug fixed it to not pull if the target(s) get out during the animation. I can definitely see a good Gnar hopping out every time Darius tries to pull him. However, a good Darius would know to just proc a bleed on a minion, rush up to Gnar with Phage passive, and try to bait out his hop with AAs or Q. (Darius's max Q range has roughly the same range as Gnar's AA range) After hop is on CD, Darius than pulls him in.

The Darius must have been inexperienced with the champion or didn't expect that Gnar would be so effective XD.