Why is Darius' heal an instant burst heal? Shouldn't half of it be over-time?

darkdill·Oct 25, 2015·5 votes·1,101 views

Darius' burst healing when he's at low health makes him pretty damn hard to finish off, almost to the point where he becomes a cheapass. He needs to not have such potent instant healing available to him, even if his axe's blade size is getting nerfed (it hardly matters).

I've suggested this change before, but I'll suggest it again.

#Divide Darius' healing so that half of it is immediate, and half of it occurs over 2-3 seconds.

This way, you don't see a Darius instantly heal 1k health with a good swing, and have a REASONABLE opportunity to kill him before he vamps up everything.

And no, Morello's doesn't always work.

15 Comments

Critmaster GarenOct 25, 20154 votes

ok, if we apply the same logic to adc.

why do they lifesteal off crits? lets remove that and apply only half of it instantly.

JusticePauldronsOct 25, 20154 votes

Not sure how this is related to the op. Having a massive insta-heal at level one is very different than getting small bursts of health quickly in the late game. Darius' heal operates at high efficiency at level one and when he does hit lategame his burst heal potential is extremely powerful for a skill on a 5 second cooldown.

darkdillOct 25, 20152 votes

No crit can let you heal 1k health in a single hit.

Critmaster GarenOct 25, 20153 votes

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No crit can let you heal 1k health in a single hit.

no, but they can attack more often than once every 5 seconds. and he only gets that much health back if hes almost dead already and hits 3 people with the q.

i think people underestimate the amount of health return adc get off a blood thirster.

BattleOxeOct 25, 20151 votes

Or... buy morelo

darkdillOct 25, 20151 votes

Morello's not enough to stop Darius reliably.

BattleOxeOct 27, 20151 votes

But is enough to stop his heal reliably

RenailleOct 25, 20151 votes

it is based on missing hp. Buy a morellos.

MakeABronziesDayOct 25, 20151 votes

Why does darius have a heal at all? Swings axe, gets healed? logic.

ShonjlOct 25, 20153 votes

Because appearently its a no no that his weakness of being poked down is a no no. His weakness before was being kited and slowly poked down. Now that isn't true since no matter how good you are, even pros in worlds will get hit by Q every now and then, and it heals for up to a third of your total health.

5 Stacks GGOct 25, 20153 votes

the amount of bronze in this statement can give cancer to an entire county...

ShonjlOct 26, 20151 votes

Meh say what you will, but if you won't listen to me, then literally look up what the pros say or what a lot of diamonds and such say. There is a reason he is pick or banned and even they don't like dealing with him.

Morde is in the same boat but at least in his case, removing the xp passive would probably be enough to balance him.

Then poor Garen and Skarner are left in the dust as the 2 crappiest Juggernauts.

5 Stacks GGOct 26, 20153 votes

darius has 45% wr atm and isnt picked or banned in worlds anymore and nor pick or banned in high elo

you can't be serious saying garen and skarner being the crappiest juggs because darius is.

People like you can't admit it because they hate the champ and refuse to see it, if you compare darius to all other juggs he is the worst one.

darius has become a high skill cap champion but every darius hater refuse to admit it and would call him op even if he had 0% winrate

ShonjlOct 27, 20151 votes

Its not that I refuse to see it, its just from my own experience and listening to others. And I don't mean the board that wants everything nerfed. I meant like the youtubers that are diamond+.

I used to be a Garen main and gotten into Gnar since I loved top lane. As soon as Jugg patch came out. Darius started being played and I had literally 0 chance at him at all. Even if I went in on him when he is trying to lead his Q on me, he would still be able to very easily get several bleed stacks on me and force me to run away. So unless every Darius even in normals are all Darius mains I just find it hard to see him as being crap. If you are melee you have to fear his bleed since they deal a lot of damage even pre6. And once he is 6 you downright can't let him get 4-5 stacks or you are dead. How are you suppose to fight that when he can get 4 stacks on you instantly? Auto W auto hydra active. At least if you are ranged if he misses his hook you can harass him but oftentimes he can flash on top of you and kill you before you can really react, 3 stacks ult an dead, all in like a second.

Hell I haven't touched top lane since which is the sole reason I even started to play League. But if Darius isn't so overbearing, how do you fight him?

5 Stacks GGOct 27, 20152 votes

I never said he was crap, I said he is the crapiest of all juggs, darius is good but isn't op like other make him out to be. darius has a very high skill cap now.

darius got nerfed by quite a lot since last time you laned vs him, trust me you can fight him much more easily now, he looks scary to fight but once you go on him, just commit to it and stay inside his q so he can't get the heal and dmg off.