Is Master Yi broken?

Garbage Bag·Apr 12, 2019·13 votes·7,681 views

So is Master Yi meant to be a DPS champ or an Assassin? Because I just played a game where he displayed he can easily do both. He wasn't crazy fed, he has Wits, Rage, and Bloodrazor.

Assassination clip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc8A3a8rgTg

Here I was trying to defend and he killed me in 1.78 seconds, without procing Conq.

Penta - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dJk55GCHZc

In this clip we're literally trying everything we can to stop Yi but once he procs Conq its actually game over.

Im just curious where Yi is meant to sit and why he is capable of what he's capable of. Considering how brain dead easy he is to use, combined with the fact the can take agro off himself by spamming Q, other than ridiculous CC how are you meant to deal with this?

25 Comments

JuiceBoxPApr 12, 20198 votes

Wits end is literally broken on him. You could however argue that the guys in the penta clip played it terrible.

Yes, imo he is overperforming for how dead easy he is to play.

It's just that some champions can't outdps him in any point of the game. His level 2 is just ridiculously strong and it gets worse from there.

The only arguement for this champ is that you cc him he's dead. But..... His w gives amazing damage reduction + healing for when he gets cced by grounding abilities.(aka not stun or supression)

Literally he can tank a full late game lux combo by clicking w while rooted

I think it's all too much.

Garbage BagApr 12, 20192 votes

Totally agree

EonslegacyApr 13, 20193 votes

Combine that with the fact that his true damage and slow immunity means he EVENTUALLY kills you regardless of what you build, and you realize even if he was permanently exhausted, he would still get a triple in that clip. Its just his scaling got power curved way way way way way earlier than it was supposed to be since Gold is now far easier to get and items are less valued on their stats like AD and more valued on their stats like 100 damage plus 10% ap on your first spell after moving x units or 8% of enemies health per auto as bonus damage, instead of 50% attackspeed and 40 ad.

EonslegacyApr 13, 20194 votes

Oh you didnt know? Master Yi is designed around winning the game at X time period. nothing more nothing less. Think vayne but higher dps tank stats move speed and less counterplay for anything OTHER than hard cc. Once a certain time period is reach master yi transitions from squishy mobile darius, to mobile mundo. Overall he is a right clicker that has 5x scalings so he is a mobile melee adc, and its the WIts end and Guinsoos that give him mid game power, and his tanky melee stats that give him tanky power. The conquerer lifesteal, the melee champion base stats, the unslowable ultimate, the 4 steroids in his kit, and the cost efficiency of on hit items and the lack of cost efficiency in STACKING tank items due to % pen result in what you see here. Yi is a champion that has to be 1 shot nothing more nothing less.

Baron BarianApr 12, 20193 votes

He had two, possibly 3 items, and started the fight by using red smite on you (which enhances his basic attacks on you), while the Aatrox (not sure if you meant that you were him) had zero armor while very behind in comparison,

Honestly, I think you just didn't notice how far ahead he got compared to everyone else. A Yi that's ahead of an entire team is a worst case scenario. Didn't help that the Aatrox only had one finished item and no armor.

TênjiMay 14, 20193 votes

Yi is definitly broken. Rito games reward playing low IQ champions with much DMG, but hate ppl who play Ekko. GJ Rito games.

Chill And FocusJun 6, 20192 votes

Master Ti IS way too Over Powered. In 1 game he did 2 Ace and realized a pentakill 3 Times. All of our team rage quit the game

Magnesium14Aug 2, 20192 votes

I just played a game which shows how OP he is, their Yi was the whole team. We had a whole good team with CC and the Yi still single handily won. He needs to be nerfed to the ground.

SirsirAug 12, 20192 votes

You just gotta CC him.

Sure, he buys QSS for malz ult, Q dodges morg Q (or just runs backwards faster than the projectile [only a minor exaggeration]), shreds the Rammus when taunted, and ignores any slows the rest of the team gets off...

...But just CC him :)

IlovemobasApr 12, 20191 votes

Every single yi teammate i had always got completely destroyed by Jax ‘s e. it block all basic attacks for quite a while and stuns at the end that spells trouble for master yi. If the master yi is competent though and uses alpha strike right yeah he is quite a headache.

EonslegacyApr 13, 20191 votes

True and not true, a master yi can easily beat a jax with qss just by pushing W and then qssing the stun or with a minion line up, qing after .9 seconds remaining unstunnable for 1.5 seconds(do to alphas bouncy bounce effect) then just right clicking him.

boricCentaur1Apr 12, 20191 votes

Yi was fed like I don't even have to see the stats of the game to know that in the penta he was level 14 and the highest on your team was Aatrox at 13 that may not sound like a big deal but this you realize he is jg and actually under the level of Aatrox.

Like you know who can do the same thing a fed tryn, a fed jax, a fed wukong, basically any champion that can burst when there fed.

Also don't act like you need ridiculous cc if nami hit q or Aatrox hit his q twice he would of died it only takes a one hard cc to kill him and no one was building armor like tornmail is great vs him.

EonslegacyApr 13, 20192 votes

Him being fed is because of how strong he is, he isnt strong because he is fed he is fed because he is strong. Zed being fed being REALLY fed cant 1v5 if you try to run away from him like they did. Its just his kit has the same BURST as most assasins due to the lvl mechanic league has where you max 1 ability by lvl 9, and lvl 1 auto attacks are just as strong as abilities (stronger than a lot actually). This results in his dps/burst being directly equal to champions like fizz lvl 9. The difference in fizz burst and yis is actually just fizzs lichbane. If yi takes duskblade or trinity force or has a muramana stacked they do the same(impossible for the muramana but yea its the strongest dps item on yi if you stack it).

EonslegacyApr 13, 20191 votes

Master yi lvl 9 just infinity edge no crits no runes,and passive up does 600 damage in alpha auto with E up. If just the auto crits and nothing else and no other moves/runes are active the auto plus passive crit(which both interact under 1 crit rule) does 498 damage. The lvl 2 e does 26 plus 35% ad per hit(total ad) so 56 plus 70% total ad which would be 121 The q does 165 plus 175% bonus ad if it crits for a total of 80 x 1.75=140 so 305 so 305 plus 121 plus 500 = 921. Fizz... fizz with max range guppy with lich bane does around 1.2k without runes if he gets max damage on his W which would be lvl 2 and the sheen proc.

EonslegacyApr 13, 20191 votes

These damage numbers are the highest AP assasin numbers and they are withing a theoretical of 300 damage. Runes even these numbers out to be even closer, since yi scales MUCH harder off of ad than fizz off of ap due to the way crits do 2.25% ad plus 65% ad on his passive and fizzs entire kit with lich bane and his perfect w only does 4.25Xap or less.

Sona PingApr 12, 20191 votes

The thing is, if you got a "DPS champion", a champion capable of consistent damage and they itemize to do the highest "Damage Per Second" that they can, and you give them a stacks of gold and they use that gold to buy a bunch of damage, they are going to do a lot of damage.

And well, in the first clip we've got Yi with a large item advantage, prepping passive and Rageblade, with Red Buff, using ult, and using a summoner, against you with no armor when he has an armor pen item. By the time the second clip comes around, while you have traded your refill for a pickaxe, Yi has gotten another complete item.

That's the answer to "So is Master Yi meant to be a DPS champ or an Assassin?" and in conclusion... Rageblade is a stupid item?

EonslegacyApr 13, 20192 votes

Problem is, if he builds full damage he should be squishy and the tower shots shoulda made that aatroxs free win. Problem is, he is melee so he has around the same base stats as the aatrox. Infact i think yi has higher base stats than aatrox rn especially with a lvl lead of just 1. The turrets account for roughly 300 damage vs anything in league now before resistances, and if it takes you .5 seconds to kill the shot wont even hit before they kill you. Combine this with the fact that you might not be able to damage someone in .5 seconds means they literally have to hit you with less than 1 turret shot of health to suffer any punishments. Problem is yis alpha forces the turret off of him and it does not re target him so that is even more compounded. A master yi can actually kill a dr mundo in dr mundos fountain laser while mundo is in his R do to the retargetting of the q if he has the cdr per auto item.

BrochIsHereAug 12, 20191 votes

item 3124 If Yi is so broken, then why is he never played in competitive play ? /end

preternaturalAug 12, 20194 votes

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If Yi is so broken, then why is he never played in competitive play ? /end

because competitive favors different attributes in champions than what soloq does.

BrochIsHereAug 12, 20191 votes

Yes and they abuse broken champions. Guess what they would do if Yi was broken ? They would abuse him. They are not.

BTW pick Rammus, Jax or Udyr and Yi will have a very hard time

preternaturalAug 12, 20191 votes

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Yes and they abuse broken champions. Guess what they would do if Yi was broken ? They would abuse him. They are not.

BTW pick Rammus, Jax or Udyr and Yi will have a very hard time

yes the pro scene picks things that provide broken utility to their team comps. that aside you don't want to discuss that time faker played yi, or when funnel yi was a thing despite the champion yi not getting any major changes, gee i wonder how that happened, was it that the utility he provided by mowing down jgl and creep waves was now valuable because there was a way to fast track gold to him so that he could get his items and stomp the game with his OP kit? nah can't be that.

5050BSAug 12, 20191 votes

He is countered by team play. Something SoloQ has none of.

Malix FarwinAug 12, 20191 votes

I do not mind his dmg, what bothers me is his resilience his meditate mitigates far too much.

5050BSAug 12, 20191 votes

He is a Hyprecarry. Something Riot came up with that is so bad for the game but Riot is fine with Bad.

AżırAug 20, 20191 votes

There is one solution for that .. If RIOT set YI cost 7200 Blue Essence and it would be good to NERF HIM + to make Master yi playing restriction for players above lvl 30 .. What do you think? Azir