Sett is ridiculous

Garbage Bag·1/21/2020, 7:29:58 PM·2 votes·1,148 views

Alright. Here we have a champion who gains HP regen as he loses HP, Q enables % MAX HP dmg (he's an anti-tank), W is a shield/true damage AOE burst ability, (like wtf even is that), E is minor CC to enable the rest of his kit, R is a 'dash' AOE ability that slows, enabling the rest of his kit. Oh and he's also manaless, oh and his grit is based off your max HP, meaning the more HP you have, the more Grit, the more damage AND more HP regen from passive. Oh and you gain Grit by taking dmg, so if you opponents dont attack you they've countered your Grit mechanic (but you'll never die so it's inevitable you'll get Grit, essentially it's free, and you get bonus HP back from passive anyway so harming Sett literally only benefits him)

Overall we have a champion the excels (dominates) melee match ups, can tank range match ups, can trade with range with W spam, out trade tanks with % HP dmg, while having a decent early game and also scaling really well into the late game.

Whats the counter play here? I cant poke him down due to HP regen and he can spam his W all day with no punishment (other than a long CD), I cant fight him in melee cause he's arguably the strongest melee, he counters any all in with a single W (defensively and offensively), and if you fail to properly kite ONCE you are severely punished. If you count his W as a skillshot (which even if you do keep in mind it's as wide as an Azir wall) he has a total of 1 skillshot. The rest of his kit just 'works together'. I haven't played him, but after just reading his kit it's obvious the best combo is E (for CC), quickly followed with Q (for BETTER autos), saving W for more Grit, and using W upon having the most amount of Grit you can muster. Oh and just ult if you have it, if you're in a teamfight just ult into their team, build Grit and W, you'll tank and 1 shot them all.

What's his weakness then? CDR. CDR alone is what 'balances' this champion. So unless you're a brainless ape who tries to trade with CDs up, that factor is entirely removed.

It just really bothers me how strong champions can be with such a low skill floor/ceiling. Champions with minimal mechanics and obvious strengths should have inherently obvious weaknesses. Champions with lots of mechanics are difficult to master, while also having weakness the opponent needs to master.

Compare how obvious it is to counter Mundo vs Sett. I'd argue mechanically they're on par, but for Mundo it's much more clear what needs to be done to counter him. Modern day Riot is too fixated on releasing champs with clearly overloaded kits (Senna) and it's ruining the game. Fix what's wrong with the games, not these nutty champs you release.

9 Comments

Xavanic1/21/2020, 7:34:44 PM3 votes

Volibear wins every trade level 3 onwards, as long as sett doesnt get fed off your team he is made useless

LunanEclipse1/21/2020, 7:54:45 PM1 votes

Sett's passive hp regeneration is increased every 5% max hp he is missing and goes up to +38 at lvl 18 at 95% missing hp. If you are a poke champ dealing the max 9.5 extra hp regeneration per second he has early should be easy. His weaknesses are very obvious you kite him with all other juggernauts with the only real movement ability being his q and his ult requires a target just slightly outside of auto range. He's good at extended trades due to his w but poking him and letting grit fall off counters his trade back potential. If he is building full damage he's squishy and if he building full hp he's bulky with all power in his w. TLDR: don't get close to him and wait for mid game or ganks where he performs badly in, if you can poke poke often and never all in until he's like 25% hp or lower and not near his tower. Yes it's unfun but it is the counterplay.

Exodus2471/21/2020, 8:21:26 PM1 votes

Sett is fine, the only thing id maybe tune down is base true dmg on w if its gonna scale like that. His regen is barely noticeable untill midgame, unlike garen or mundo, his punches are weak as shit early on, which by the way is THE BIGGEST WINDOW TO FUCK HIM UP, and his stun has a longer windup than thresh e which has the same hitbox, so unless you are right infront of him and not running away, hes gonna get you, and even then if theres nothing on the other side of him it only slows. His weakness is that hes a juggernaut. His defensive ability has a really high cd, he can be kited really easily since his only real mobility is a 1.5 second speed boost while running at an ememy 'like voli q', and heres the big one, HES A MEELE CHAMP WITH NO OTHER STERIOD OR WAY TO GET TO THE ENEMY EFFECTIVLY EXCEPT HIS ULT. You got guys like trundle with his frozen ground, maokai with the roots and cc, galio even. Hes so easily kiteable that even if he gets fed the only way you are going to lose a fight to him late if youre ganking him is if your entire team goes braindead and stands in the middle of his w.

boricCentaur11/21/2020, 9:36:50 PM1 votes

Have you played vs a juggernaut before? Since a good amount of your problems are just because he is a juggernaut.

2gudaiya1/21/2020, 10:16:44 PM1 votes

the boards will insist to you that he is not overloaded. standard shit by now.