Am i the only one sick of adc are op circlejerk

HarrowR··5 votes·444 views

Yes they deal lots of damage,thats the point of the class,but when you cry about them being op and i see your last game was 3/13 with udyr while your bard was 1/16 and the Draven youre bitching about was 15/9,thats 9 deaths and hardly a score to write home about while coming into second place with damage done behind Viktor then i really cant help but feel this kind of posts are a bad players coping mechanism

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Ahristocats3 votes

depends

KogMaw is by far a design problem because of his "abuse on hit effects and bruiser items" kit Tristana is by far a design problem because of her "good in early, mid, late game, safe hyper carry" Varus ult has no counterplay unless you flash

except those 3, i don't have any issues with marksmen

Diamond2Kappa5 votes

except Xayah Draven Kalista Twitch Ezreal Sivir Caitlyn Lucian Jinx MissFortune Vayne, i agree :]

Ahristocats2 votes

idc if you agree or not

Me: "except those 3, i don't have any issues with marksmen"

and you come from nowhere and tell me that "except blablabla i agree" , you think that i give you the choice about if you agree or not on some marksmen being a problem TO ME?

which marksmen is a problem to me and me alone revolves only around my opinion alone, not yours idc if you don't agree about me having no issues against kalista or twitch, the fact still doesn't change that i don't have issues against them

FOR JUSTICE4 votes

sivir and Lucian are actually pretty bad right now, jinx was until she just recently got buffed, kallista is slated for a nerf, and xayah can only really kill you if you suck at positioning.

Ahristocats2 votes

sivir is not bad, she has 50% win rate

her power just heavily depends on who's against her she hardcounters some match ups while being totally useless against some others due to her 500 range

Diamond2Kappa2 votes

I still have issues with them tho because Lucian often abuses solo laners and Xayah and Sivir are safe af :[

Primaquarius1 votes

Well half of them are technician ADCs, theyre supposed to have fancy kits

Colton1471 votes

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except Xayah Draven Kalista Twitch Ezreal Sivir Caitlyn Lucian Jinx MissFortune Vayne, i agree :]

Jinx is the worst hyper carry and is pretty much an auto-loss if picked.

Censored Sona4 votes

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depends

KogMaw is by far a design problem because of his "abuse on hit effects and bruiser items" kit Tristana is by far a design problem because of her "good in early, mid, late game, safe hyper carry" Varus ult has no counterplay unless you flash

except those 3, i don't have any issues with marksmen

I think the bigger issue is item 3124 It's an item that needs to either be reworked or removed. It's just not healthy in my opinion. On-hit has never been in a good state, it's either too strong or useless. It's nice to have alternative build paths than the standard critical items but Guinsoo's needs to change.

Tristana on the other hand I think needs her safety removed. Other super scalers like her generally don't have an escape as reliable as hers. It resets, is long range, AND can be used to ignore most cc abilities if cast at the right time. I think that this is what riot needs to address in her kit.

Ahristocats3 votes

i respect your opinion but i disagree

no matter if guinsoo existed or not kog's kit is still a huge issue a mix of physical and magical damage built in %hp damage on every hit built in huge physical+magical shred built in 50% free attack speed steroid those 3 combined screams a problem that is creating a marksmen autoattacking heavily while not needing to build glass canon at all, kog can just build on hit effect and defense items

this wouldn't be an issue if it had a weakness somewhere, but you add on top of that the fact that he has 700 range and you can't dodge his damage either

so you can't survive in any way(since you can't dodge his damage), and you have troubles to kill a target too both combined creates a bad design

HarrowR2 votes

If youre going to act like you know stuff you could at least google how much AS does his Q give,also he doesnt have built in % hp dmg and 700 range on every hit,he needs to use his W,which has a cooldown and mana cost,his weakness is the fact that he's one of the least mobile champs in the game,with no hard cc,no self peel,no spells to help him dodge stuff,he's a sitting duck without his team to help him,so if he didnt deal damage,what in the hell would he do?

Ahristocats1 votes

being immobile doesn't do SHIT if you have 3k hp 120 mr and 110 armor

i admit i was wrong on Q, it gives 35% instead of 50% doesn't matter anyway, because in game it impacts his gameplay and makes him dealing more damage than he should with defensive items

Pokemonred2001 votes

Honestly, it should get the ranged clause it had back on it.

When Phantom Hit was on Sated Devourer, it triggered every forth attack for Ranged champions, rather than every second like it did for Melee champions. This clause was completely removed when Phantom hit was first put on Rageblage, which I think should have never happened, since if you can afford to rush rageblade, you can get it much faster than you could ever get sated because you had to buy it before it ever began stacking. And it wasn't locked behind jungle items either, opening it up to lane champions like Varus and Kog in the process.

Pokemonred2001 votes

Tristana was supposed to have a 'U-shaped' power curve, where she's good early, has a REALLY hard drop in power mid game, but comes back into power late game due to long range and safety with basic attacks that hit hard.

Too bad her item choices (looking at item 3087 especially) completely eliminate that 'weakness' :)

Ratpie2 votes

ADCs were at the start, but I do feel like it has toned down a bit. Overall, I do no think it is ADCs that are the problem. I think it is the same problem in every lane. There are a couple hypercarries for each lane, and if you do not pick them then you are handicapping your team. The new rune system has made so many champs irrelevant it is causing massive problems, and I think the ADC debate is just the tip of the iceberg.

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