Game is BETTER OFF without Assassins

Diamondserpent·Jul 14, 2015·5 votes·917 views

I'm glad to see that has been disabled and long may that continue. However, I do wonder how this game would be without ((Nidalee and her invisible spears STILL exist in this game but she's never been disabled)). A lot of people use the arguement that ADC's would just win outright if assassins weren't a thing HOWEVER mages still exist with high CC and high burst to do EXACTLY that role. So Assassins are not actually needed in the game at all that. Its just to appeal to ego.

21 Comments

Rito PonytailJul 14, 20152 votes

While we're at it, Let's make all champions have the same abilities, damage, health, mana costs, ect. Wonder how this game would be if there we're no variables? FUCKING BORING.

DiamondserpentJul 14, 20152 votes

There are DIFFERENT champs in the game, not just ASSASSINS. Nobody likes them apart from the people who main them because their designs are toxic, unfair and too highly rewarding. They never get punished for their mistakes because of high mobility. So no, the game would be BETTER not "Boring".

SerevasJul 14, 20151 votes

Do you know what CC is?

That's how assassins get punished, it's not hard to hit CC on an assassin, they're not that mobile as long your movements aren't slower than a sloth in quicksand.

Rito PonytailJul 14, 20152 votes

States that assassins never get punished for their play-style. What elo are you?

DiamondserpentJul 14, 20152 votes

Cough Ekko Zed cough

jDVL20eCYsJul 14, 20152 votes

you never seen them get punished? haha.. there play style si os much riskier then lux, xerath, oriana, ahri

DiamondserpentJul 14, 20152 votes

No, their playstyle is really not because once they use their insane mobility to get on top of Lux, Xerath etc, then that person is dead and can do jack shit. Not to mention that both Zed and Ekko have EXCEPTIONALLY good poke tools during the laning phase. So they have RANGE too.

jDVL20eCYsJul 14, 20151 votes

i can to a lot as lux. and you don't think the keel champs should win vs range in a melee range combat :)?

Atik L YarJul 14, 20152 votes

As someone who has never liked the assassin playstyle, I still don't think we should just delete them all. As long as it doesn't come back to the assassin meta proper (Team fights don't exist. People just get caught the second they leave the deathball and explode) I think the game is fine having them.

I'm normally a Shyvana main, but I've been trying to learn Ekko lately. Do I sometimes feel dirty when I dive in, insta-kill carries, and then ult out like I was never there? Sure.

But there are just as many times where one of the tanks or bruisers catches me and I'm suddenly in for a world of hurt. If it comes to it, I've killed Jax's and Sions, but I have to work like hell for those kills in a 1v1. And if it's a teamfight and I'm out of position? I'm gone.

jDVL20eCYsJul 14, 20151 votes

dives in insta kills carry then ult you? hahahahah ekko cant do that unless extremely hyper fed as in 15/0 vs 30 mr 3 levels lower sona :)

Critmaster GarenJul 14, 20152 votes

calling yi an assassin still doesnt feel right. he doesnt have the bursty damage of an assassin.

hes clearly an adc.

"fighter" would fit him better as a description than "assassin".

DiamondserpentJul 14, 20152 votes

Yi is still an assassin because of the amount of mobility and damage he has. He's League's original assassin poster boy.

Critmaster GarenJul 14, 20152 votes

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Yi is still an assassin because of the amount of mobility and damage he has. He's League's original assassin poster boy.

he has the amount of mobility appropriate for a squishy melee adc.

and as far as damage goes, lategame ranged carries dont do less damage than him. and just as his ranged counterparts, all of his damage comes from auto attacking, and not bursting someone down with spells. alpha strike is the only spell in his kit, that deals damage.

and hes not more of an assassin because of it than graves because of his q and r.

DiamondserpentJul 14, 20151 votes

He gets an ultimate that lasts 10 seconds, he is built AD. His Q makes him untargetable and has good range. He has a heal, like Nidalee does. ((No lategame ranged carry has a built in heal and damage reduction))

Critmaster GarenJul 14, 20151 votes

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He gets an ultimate that lasts 10 seconds, he is built AD. His Q makes him untargetable and has good range. He has a heal, like does. ((No lategame ranged carry has a built in heal and damage reduction))

your point being? you just listed the tools in his kit. all of them there to help him with his auto attack focused playstile. and the heal isnt even comparable to nidalees.

sivir isnt a support, because she has an aoe buff on her ult.

yi is a sustained damage carry. thats how he plays. his mobility and alpha strike are there to help him stay in melee range auto attacking, and to dodge lethal blows that carry stuns or other forms of cc (which takes a ridiculous amount of practise to pull off properly).

assassins usually have a burst focused playstile. they get in, deal a ton of damage with a single ability chain and get out. all of that in a matter of a few seconds. very similar to how mages burst down their target.

a good yi manages alpha strike and his ult properly to keep auto attacking and going through the enemy team like any adc.

DiamondserpentJul 14, 20152 votes

I repeat, no ranged ADC has a heal.

Critmaster GarenJul 14, 20151 votes

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I repeat, no ranged ADC has a heal.

ya, no shit. yi isnt a ranged adc. hes a melee adc. so there are bound to be some differences.

he does the same thing as ranged adc, just not from a comfortable distance from behind 2 supports. to compensate for that he needs better tools to dodge aoe damage thats flying around, and better mobility.

the heal on his w is less important than the damage reduction. the point of the ability is to briefly dodge some damage and then get back in there and resume auto attacking.

Rito PonytailJul 14, 20151 votes

"Insert X champion here"

UltraSceptileJul 14, 20151 votes

I think mages should also be deleted. All they do is buy one mana item and then mindlessly spam every single ability they have in teamfights from a massive range away.

In fact, I think we should delete tanks. They shouldn't be able to run in 1 v 5 and still get away with 3/4 because they have strong CC and mobility (gragas).

Actually, while we're at it, delete bruisers. These champs can do a lot of damage while still being tanky. No one likes that.

On another note, let's delete adcs. They do a lot of damage, and no one likes that.

This is how retarded you sound.

TomA3XJul 14, 20151 votes

Either try a little harder, or pick a different game. It's obvious you can't play this one.

KirynDawnJul 14, 20151 votes

You say "HOWEVER mages still exist with high CC and high burst to do EXACTLY that role."

when in reality if that were the case they would be so weak because the enemy team would build magic resist. Then there goes your only defensive/offensive player for the carry. (Even though this would apply for both teams). This would make playing mages VERY BORING and useless.