Why is there no "grappler"-style Champion? As in, someone who actually throws you.

darkdill·Oct 23, 2014·2 votes·1,179 views

Just watching some Street Fighter replays and while watching some Zangief, I thought "Why is there no Champion who specializes in throws?"

IMO, it'd be pretty awesome if you could grab an enemy Champion and then chuck them like a skill-shot into his/her teammates. But I imagine Riot doesn't like that idea since it causes teammates to try to kill each other, and takes control away from the one being tossed for too long.

Would this be the problem, Riot? Or is it something else?

EDIT: ITT, Lee's ultimate doesn't count. That's a KICK, not a THROW.

12 Comments

meadowOct 23, 20148 votes

Wasn't there champions with a throw: Singed? Also Volibear.

The5lackerOct 23, 20145 votes

For much of the same reason there isn't a "grappler class" in Call of Duty: Grappling does not work in fast paced compeditive gameplay. Either it's worthless because you can't actually do any grappling or it's insane because you can put the enemy in a chokehold while the rest of your team pummels them to death.

Tanks are the "grapplers" of League. Any sort of displacement CC is as good as it's going to get, because as soon as you picture a grappler with better repositioning than Thresh or Naut, then you can see where the problems arise. Positioning is critical in League and having a champion who's sole focus is interrupting that positioning either can't work or would singlehandedly wreck everyone's face.

Not saying it can't be done. Saying it's not worth the effort to do because it's liable to break just about everything in the game. If you've ever been spinkicked into the enemy team you know how that ends. Imagine a champion doing that as a basic ability with no regard for his own positioning.

JoushiOct 23, 20144 votes

What would be the counterplay to being grabbed like that?

QSS/Cleanse/Mikael's doesn't count.

darkdillOct 23, 20141 votes

Stay out of melee range? Or a teammate could CC that Champion before he throws you, thus negating the ult?

JoushiOct 23, 20143 votes

Would the throwing champion have gapclosers? Is his ultimate a channeled ability? Would the champion offer things that say Lee Sin/Skarner/Blitz don't already offer?

darkdillOct 23, 20141 votes

Dunno. Just suggesting a thought.

BeatenByALtlGirlOct 23, 20142 votes

Volibear throws, vi picks people up and smashes them, but at the end of it voli is a throwing champ. So what more do you want? A wrestler that does swan dives and stuff? Oh almost forgot singed.

darkdillOct 23, 20141 votes

I think someone was suggesting a Luchadore in the past, but it kinda fell off. Would've been fun to see a masked wrestler. XD

A Slime AppearsOct 23, 20141 votes

Someone wants Tiny. We will never have it because Riot doesn't trust us with an ability that can be used to troll.

But trusted us with judging players and possibly banning them until the tribunal went down. Logic.

darkdillOct 23, 20143 votes

I guess someone like Tiny from DotA, but one that throws your enemies, not your teammates.

Thrill MoentralOct 23, 20141 votes

Wasn't Vi supposed to be able to throw the champ she targeted with her ult in her early stage development instead of just slamming it head first in the ground? Would have liked to see that.

King ReiOct 23, 20141 votes

I was thinking about this as well. I envision a luchadore being a frog (maybe from zaun sewers like Twitch?) Passive - Every 5th Hit, Frog performs his signature punch dealing 15/30/45 bonus true damage Q - Shoulder Ram - Frog performs a small dash (perhaps like rivens shield, maybe shorter) if it hits enemy champion, they are knocked back a bit (rammus like knock back) : with W active - Frog will dash further and straight through an enemy champion, slowing them instead of knocking them back for 10/15/20/25/30% W - Bulk Up - Frog gains X% tenacity and changes Q, E, R effects E - German Suplex - (melee range) Frog quickly steps behind target and delivers a suplex moving target enemy champion towards the direction their back was faced dealing X damage and stunning for .1/.2/.3/.4/.5 seconds : with W active - Frog will throw the target enemy champ further, deal more damage, but they won't be stunned. R - Frog Splash - From leaps 250/350/450 units in given direction and comes landing on enemy champions dealing X damage. If it's only used on one enemy, it'll do increased damage. maybe something like 200/300/400 multi target, 350/400/475 one target : with W active - Frog gains vigor after landing and has increased movement speed for 3 seconds 10/15/20%

Edit: Displacement and CC ftw as a luchadore btw.

anyway I'm bad at spit balling but it's just an idea :P