Why nerf zoe?

YuumiSoThicc·Feb 28, 2018·2 votes·648 views

Riot there is a difference between nerfing fun and nerfing problem champs. Zoe wasn't a problem. The problem was that no one knew how to fight her. She is actually pretty difficult to play at a high level. Why did you have to go and nerf her? She wasn't a problem, now shes near damn unplayable at a high level! Why did you do this? I barely got to play her because everyone was so afraid of her and because they didnt know how to fight her and now when i do get to play her she sucks! Why did you do this?!

9 Comments

BloopyLadFeb 28, 20182 votes

Cause these people constantly complained ;p

91929298DEL1Feb 28, 20182 votes

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vgamedudeFeb 28, 20181 votes

Pretty much this. Zoe nerfs aren't based in any sort of logic or facts it's a bunch of community bitching and pitchforking.

Odysseus263Feb 28, 20181 votes

Really? no one knows how to fight her? I play someone like annie/zed/brand and annie gets chunked hard for obvious reasons, she has issues with ranged champions. I took a liberty at looking at scaling factors, zoe is probably one of the fastest scaling AP mages due to her ridiculous damage on her Q dealing ~half hp @ level 2-3 (in her Q not zoe overall). Again, specific champions she counters hard. Katarina for example gets dunked in lane by most zoe's, not even good ones. Press E and it counters katarina to the point it hurts my brain to think about it. I could probably write a book about why i personally hate zoe but i use her if she isn't banned for freelo for when i play on some silver-gold account for funsies to just boost it til i get tired of it and go back to another account (i have ~20 in rotation from the previous seasons 6 and 7 that are basically bronze/silver/gold and my highest is gold 2). I digress. That being said she did get cucked hard in the balance changes but the problem is her Q E combo. Her Q deals too much for a non-capped ability for damage. Just infinite scaling damage as much as you can move back for more range.

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YuumiSoThiccFeb 28, 20182 votes

Yeah SPECIFIC champions. NOT ALL champions. No her q doesnt do too much damage and her e is NEEDED to help her land a q. That crap gets stopped by the slightest thing getting in front of it and guess what, in lane all you have to do is stand behind minions and you good! People keep saying "shes op" when she is not AND WASNT! The only people actually complaining about her were people that didnt know how to beat her. Screw all of them. Riot buff her back.

Odysseus263Feb 28, 20181 votes

reasons why i hate her: 51% win rate when in games she isn't banned in. Annoying to deal with so i ban her out so i don't have to deal with her. Don't like it? That's my opinion. I'd rather have a jungler or a support come out instead of another mid laner like zoe. In my opinion she was a waste of 7800 BE when i could've spent it on something else like anything. I had over 200k BE (currently sitting on 120k now after buying urfwick) and i'd refund that champ if i could since i have no refunds. Waste of my time to play a braindead champion that requires little to no skill. Also, if you like zoe then enjoy when i play yasuo into a zoe and beat that win rate below 42%.

Zoe = 42% win rate 8.4 patch currently according to champ.gg http://champion.gg/champion/Zoe/Middle

vgamedudeFeb 28, 20181 votes

Go watch mvp vs KZ last game and the Ekko pick into zoe.

A bunch of crybabies cried about zoe even though she was statistically mediocre before finding many things that surprise surprise work into an extremely telegraphed burst mage with no mobility.

PeachyPosteriorMar 6, 20181 votes

She was a problem. She was able to spam her abilities too much and there wasn't much the enemy could do about it.

Now they can cleanse or QSS her E, which is very fair. She got some damage removed so she can't 100-0 anyone in the early game anymore.

8.5 is bringing back her waveclear by the sounds of it and giving her Q more late game damage. I think these ended up being some very fair changes but I won't really know to give a full opinon until I play her after 8.5