Guys you almost have her right. Just pick one thing, either get rid of the stupid cast time on her w, it makes her feel SUPER clunky and awkward, or give her a slightly weaker e with less mana costs and her charges back. DONT DO BOTH. I've played hundreds of games of yuumi and this change just the w change makes her feel SUPER awkward. Please either get rid of it, or keep it and give yuumi the charges back and reduce the mana costs on her e.
Malix Farwin7 votesQ feels like too much of a hassle to cast. harder to land empowered and hits like a wet noodle tacked on with a larger mana cost for some reason.
Gloomsnooze1 votes[{quoted}](name=Malix Farwin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XgPwwM85,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-05T12:17:34.551+0000)
Q feels like too much of a hassle to cast. harder to land empowered and hits like a wet noodle tacked on with a larger mana cost for some reason.
Yup, I think I would be fine with her slow being removed in favor of more power. Obviously the reason the ability has been nerfed to garbage is because the poke was too strong early and the slow was oppressive later, especially when chasing people down. The ability should just have one focus/purpose to fill.
FakeGravity6 voteshonestly i would go the other way with her, reduced damage in favor of utility so we don't have magical invulnerable artillery cats, make it a mark kinda like leona's? duration back for easier landing and now the ally yuumi is attach to can proc prowling mark for extra damage or a slow or something
Luminev2 voteshonestly i would go the other way with her, reduced damage in favor of utility so we don't have magical invulnerable artillery cats, make it a mark kinda like leona's? duration back for easier landing and now the ally yuumi is attach to can proc prowling mark for extra damage or a slow or something
That's actually a really good idea, it'd make her Q much less free while preventing the need to remove aspects of it entirely.
Delightful Mango4 votesI think she is pretty powerful, just from what i've read. Her new max rank W gives to her parasyte-infested target 20% adaptive froce, and that is damn insane. I've been looking for an enchanter than can buff the ap from other champs, but 20%? do you know how strong some abilities scale with that? at 1k AP it stacks itself with d-cap giving about 300 bonus ap. Your APcarry can reach 1300AP before 40 minutes, and that is just fucking insane. (that requires a player that is good at the game, don't take the low elo as exaplme at all, ty :) I love that they pushed her into a scaling champion rather than an early game parasyte and is amazing. Strong, but amazing. The only thing i disagree with is the cannot stick to the target that uses tp, that was kinda inside her identity, y'a know? bringing this back would make her, probably the best scaling support in the game.
Gloomsnooze1 votes[{quoted}](name=Delightful Mango,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XgPwwM85,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-05T14:07:05.964+0000)
I think she is pretty powerful, just from what i've read. Her new max rank W gives to her parasyte-infested target 20% adaptive froce, and that is damn insane. I've been looking for an enchanter than can buff the ap from other champs, but 20%? do you know how strong some abilities scale with that? at 1k AP it stacks itself with d-cap giving about 300 bonus ap. Your APcarry can reach 1300AP before 40 minutes, and that is just fucking insane. (that requires a player that is good at the game, don't take the low elo as exaplme at all, ty :) I love that they pushed her into a scaling champion rather than an early game parasyte and is amazing. Strong, but amazing. The only thing i disagree with is the cannot stick to the target that uses tp, that was kinda inside her identity, y'a know? bringing this back would make her, probably the best scaling support in the game.
It's funny because the reason she has both flat adaptive force and % adaptive force on her W passive is because the original % adaptive force was way too strong so they split it up. They might have to nerf this again if it becomes to dominant late game.
YuumiSoThicc2 voteseverything that's happened to her is fine, nothing else is wrong EXCEPT the w cast time. That cast time is what makes her clunky af.
5050BS1 votesThe heals are HUGE too. Like Soraka big.
PhantomSpirit1011 votesThat heal is pretty small-moderate. Athenes makes it big though.
ThunderCraft2 voteskeep dreaming, yuumi is not for maining her or abusing it
YuumiSoThicc9 votesthats an opinion and just like assholes everyone has one
ThunderCraft1 votesim not going to allow you to make her "secret op" so you and a few other will abuse her.
YuumiSoThicc5 votesand im not going to sit here and allow you to let riot make her a very clunky champion. That makes her not fun. She wont even be sleeper op because a lot of whats making her good now will be nerfed by the mana increases, which i am perfectly fine with because i even wanted riot to do that in the first place. Just increase the mana costs and that will keep yuumi in check. Im ok with the removal of the charges because that makes her more skill oriented because you need to really think about when you actually cast the thing. All they really need to do is just remove the cast time on her w and she will be perfect.
123girr1 votesYou do realize she has been sitting at a sub 50% win rate since her release, right? According to every source I can find, Yuumi's win rate is at an all time low right now, about 39%-41% at any given elo (litterally the lowest of any champion in the game). The higher the elo the lower the win rate for this cat. She has been in DESPERATE need of a buff, and why they nurfed her all these times (directly or indirectly) is beyond me.
YuumiSoThicc1 votesits because she was too strong after the first hotfix, and they couldnt figure out how to balance her so they gave her the azir treatment.
Revech2 votesShe was released with the lowest win rate and then they nerfed her q, why is beyond me!?! This W change with the adaptive force increase turns her into a glorified keystone, add to that removing 10% speed off her "zoomies" it's no longer zoomies and she no longer has outplay fun. Leave Yuumi alone please instead of nerfing her because a few pro players can abuse her. Instead nerf ryze, akali or yasuo they are beyond broken in practically every elo.
YuumiSoThicc3 votesthey are reworking her, its not really a nerf AS LONG AS THEY GET RID OF THE W CAST TIME. Trust me ive played that shit in pbe, it would be so much better without that cast time.
5050BS2 votesEverything is better without a cast time. That is not a good defense.
They added it so she cant dodge everything if an Ally is nearby.
FakeGravity2 votesit does make it so late game trying to switch allies could be her dead sentence
Luminev4 votesEverything is better without a cast time. That is not a good defense.
They added it so she cant dodge everything if an Ally is nearby.
That would be fine if CC didn't also put her W on cd for 5 seconds, which refreshes every time she gets cc'd. They already stopped her from being able to just dodge everything, she's much easier to kill now. The 0.2 cast time is just unnecessary and makes her pointlessly clunky. I actually thought I misread it at first. The CD on W is enough and keeps her in check.
YuumiSoThicc1 votesEverything is better without a cast time. That is not a good defense.
They added it so she cant dodge everything if an Ally is nearby.
for the fact that she has the lowest tank stats in the game, her being able to dodge stuff is very very needed
YuumiSoThicc1 votesEverything is better without a cast time. That is not a good defense.
They added it so she cant dodge everything if an Ally is nearby.
Just like these two said. Everything else is enough to keep her in check, the cast time makes her clunky and not fun.
P0IS0N IVY1 votesWait for her next skin if you want Riot to buff her. I don't think they care atm.
123girr1 votesI agree wholeheartedly, although I really hope that they give the charges back and reduce the mana cost over the w cool-down.
Jigglypuff1 votesDo u wanna play with me I've been wanting to play with a yuumi main