Inb4 the next patch has maybe 5 changes total

Liofa·Dec 4, 2016·90 votes·3,168 views

Preseason is time for testing and change guyzzzzzzzzzzzz

Proceeds to put out as many changes as during the regular season at the same rate, so basically nothing

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MarshbouyDec 4, 201634 votes

Community "stop making shitty changes to the game" "make more changes to the game"

TequilaZombieDec 4, 201626 votes

Well, with some simple maths with have an easy solution:

Community desire = - Shitty Changes + Changes

Community desire = - Shitty ~~Changes~~ + ~~Changes~~ = - Shitty

The shit is the problem, not the changes.

Khazix Change is good!

Sraeg2013Dec 4, 201635 votes

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GULAG 4 UDec 4, 201610 votes

"If I eat you, will I learn how to be trash?"

Sraeg2013Dec 4, 20166 votes

You are what you eat.

Troll for TrumpDec 5, 20161 votes

"If I eat you will I be just as toxic?"

Sraeg2013Dec 5, 20161 votes

More toxic than a xenomorph.

TeCoolMageDec 5, 20161 votes

umm I think your math is off

Community desire = - Shitty Changes + Changes = Changes ( 1 - Shitty)

So they want a specific amount of changes, specifically, 1 minus the shitty parts.

TequilaZombieDec 5, 20161 votes

No. We have a negative change and a positive one. They nullify each other, leaving only -Shitty.

TeCoolMageDec 5, 20161 votes

but -yx + x =/= -y...

Changes is a coefficient to -Shitty and 1, so you factorize it to Changes(1-Shitty)

Awesomedude8888Dec 4, 20164 votes

Because we want to change the game for good, aka change without the shitty changes?

Velzard of KozDec 4, 20165 votes

Community here consist of quite a lot of people. Saying what your post says would be same as saying America wants both Trump and Hillary as presidents. I am probably going to use your logic and make fun of Americans that they want two presidents at once, because that makes sense.

XonraDec 5, 20161 votes

Well they already made the shitty changes. The plants are still seen as "eh not as terrible as I imagined but...meh". And the jungle is still a mess of awkward + overtuned in a very specific (and stupid) way.

Wanting changes isn't the same as NOT wanting shitty changes. I think the point is more, IF you have to make changes, make them now. Just as people don't want the crazy changes that they already made.

Was good somehow for farming a few upvotes, but you missed the point pretty hardcore to try and be funny.

MegaV78G87Dec 5, 20161 votes

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Community "stop making shitty changes to the game" "make more changes to the game"

The sad truth to it all lol.

IcyPepperDec 5, 20161 votes

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The DeckownerDec 4, 201617 votes

syndra nerf reverted, rengar nerf is non-existance, i feel bad.

Sraeg2013Dec 4, 201613 votes

I already voiced my opinion on the other thread, but I will say it again.

That Syndra nerf would accomplish exactly nothing and you would feel bad anyway.

My Waifu VanillaDec 5, 20161 votes

Her best item is getting practically deleted from the game. Syndra will actually have to go out of her way for early 200+ AP now.

The DeckownerDec 5, 20161 votes

she would just go for ludens echo, less utility but overall more burst dmg.

My Waifu VanillaDec 5, 20161 votes

That still makes her much easier to fight back when she doesn't have 400 health over you while still probably having more AP like it is on live.

LankPantsDec 5, 20161 votes

Even if she does it's pretty clear that that's a worse build than Morello's>Rylai's at current so it is a hit to her damage. I can also tell you that she won't. Voidstaff straight up gives more damage than Luden's, not more damage per gold, just more damage on the completed item and it scales better. There's never a reason to go for Luden's second.

TeCoolMageDec 5, 20161 votes

damage per gold trumps damage per slot early game, then it flips for late game.

LankPantsDec 5, 20161 votes

Void wins out on both. It absolutely crushes Luden's on damage per gold and only gets better as the game goes on.

TeCoolMageDec 5, 20161 votes

not more damage per gold, just more damage on the completed item and it scales better.

then why say this??

LankPantsDec 5, 20162 votes

Use your brain, if Void is a cheaper item and it wins out on per slot efficiency it has to win out on per gold efficiency. That statement is just to highlight how much better Void is than Luden's. It's a cheaper item but even without considering its price it's a better item.

TeCoolMageDec 5, 20161 votes

So it wins in gold efficiency, and slot efficiency, and yet still gives less 'damage per gold'?

BlåbæretDec 5, 20161 votes

Void is situational. Rarely is it ever worth getting second unless you're behind and there's an MR item on more than one enemy champ.

LankPantsDec 5, 20161 votes

Due to the way how Void stacks with flat M-pen a Void stacked with Sorc shoes and standard runes+masteries VS a target with 42 MR gives you a 12.5% increase to damage off of the passive alone. The 20 extra AP and passive from Luden's will never increase your damage by 12.5%.

DengedenDec 5, 20161 votes

Rengar complaints were largely focused on his passive, so yeah.

Sahn UzalDec 5, 20161 votes

rengar nerf is non-existance

Wait what?

ThatHaleStateDec 4, 20169 votes

Inb4 they change nothing that needs to be changed, but change other stuff

VexingRavenDec 6, 20161 votes

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Inb4 they change nothing that needs to be changed, but change other stuff

I mean, this is pretty much guaranteed.

CppLDec 4, 20167 votes

i guess they think that their game is totally balanced.

SkiasDec 6, 20161 votes

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i guess they think that their game is totally balanced.

Lol.

DauthauDec 4, 20167 votes

HAHAHA, the truth in this is sooo funny...not really that funny though, just sad.

PennsDec 4, 20164 votes

Well they did make changes to the jungle, plants and the assassin rework was released as well as a new keystone and other masteries and some new items, so...

XonraDec 5, 20161 votes

The jungle stuff was relevant but people still aren't a fan of it. The plants honestly could be deleted tomorrow and I doubt anyone would realistically care. The masteries were good in certain cases, but mostly like, 2-3 of them and the others weren't "game changing" so to speak. The assassin rework was a flop lol Mages are being played even more and performing even better right now than they were somehow.

I think the whole point was wanting good changes and not shitty changes. It was just changes for the sake of changes, and that is pointless.

BlåbæretDec 5, 20161 votes

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The jungle stuff was relevant but people still aren't a fan of it. The plants honestly could be deleted tomorrow and I doubt anyone would realistically care. The masteries were good in certain cases, but mostly like, 2-3 of them and the others weren't "game changing" so to speak. The assassin rework was a flop lol Mages are being played even more and performing even better right now than they were somehow.

I think the whole point was wanting good changes and not shitty changes. It was just changes for the sake of changes, and that is pointless.

The only thing that is being played "even more" are champs abusing colossus.

Mystic ShovelDec 4, 20164 votes

I mean I think the games pretty chill atm. Vayne might be a bit overtuned, level 3 krugs is a bit unfair but not un-counterable, and a few champions could do with a range of small buffs to bring them up, but overall I think its good.

Remove blast cones though those things are stupid.

kitcat300Dec 4, 20163 votes

Well, see for yourself. (looks like more than 5 to me)

http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html#balance

Nameless VoiceDec 5, 20161 votes

I'd say they will start the season, and then go on holidays for Christmas and leave the game in the current mess until January.

XonraDec 5, 20161 votes

So the same thing as usual around this time. Make huge sweeping changes. Make 1-2 patches of SMALL changes, then just leave it until the new year.

iTaLenTZDec 5, 20161 votes

It is just that regular season has turned into 1 big preseason

xScarfyDec 5, 20161 votes

We already had this years big preseasons-changes at the beginning of the preseason (jungle plants, new support items, jungle camp changes,...). Now is the “post big preseason-changes balance time“ ;)

SkiasDec 6, 20161 votes

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We already had this years big preseasons-changes at the beginning of the preseason (jungle plants, new support items, jungle camp changes,...). Now is the “post big preseason-changes balance time“ ;)

Stupid damn plants for a year.