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I thought of a better ultimate for Garen....

Insanity 101·3/27/2015, 10:47:58 AM·1 votes·856 views

Everyone knows how bad Garen's ultimate is. It's a magic damage execute that only kills when you are literally one step away from death. And it has a HUGE cooldown. Almost every execute in the game is more useful. Only advantage Garen has is that his looks cool....

So I have a proposal, how about instead of an execute, he gets an initiation?

R - Demacian Justice

Cost: No cost Cooldown: 160/120/80 Range: Global

Garen calls upon the might of Demacia to aid him in battle

After channeling for 3/2/1.5 seconds, Garen deals 150/225/310 (+ 5/10/15% of enemy current health) in magic damage and slows by 80% for 3 seconds on a small target area anywhere on the map. Enemies around the initial area take half of the effect.

This new ultimate could give Garen some utility and actually make him useful outside of lane. It could also give him a unique niche among fighters, and not just make him a tankier version of Darius. What do you guys think?

3 Comments

67chrome3/27/2015, 3:17:35 PM1 votes

Everyone knows how bad Garen's ultimate is. It's a magic damage execute that only kills when you are literally one step away from death. And it has a HUGE cooldown. Almost every execute in the game is more useful. Only advantage Garen has is that his looks cool....

The only bad part of Garen's ultimate is the cooldown.

MR is usually 35% lower than armor through base stats and item availability, making it essentially a free item 3035 applied to damage that could have otherwise been physical. Which is a pretty big plus if you're a tanky DPS champion like Garen that actually needs to build a lot of tankyness and can't afford to go full AD adventures.

Also - a lot of executes simply do double their base damage when a target is at 1% HP. Garen's execute actually scales with his opponent's HP, so you're not limited to using it when you're opponents are only a step away from death. It deals damage equal to 28%/33%/40% of an opponent's missing HP (plus a solid chunk of base damage on top of it).

Against a target with 2000 HP? Garen's ult can do 1325 damage. Riven's ult can do a max of 480+180% AD (or she needs 470 bonus AD to match) Against a target with 3000 HP? Garen's ult can do 1725 damage. Riven's ult can do a max of 480+180% AD (or she needs 691 bonus AD to match) Against a target with 4000 HP? Garen's ult can do 2125 damage. Riven's ult can do 480+180% AD (or she needs 913 bonus AD to match)

Even with itemizing for a ton of armor penetration to offset the difference, Garen gets the equivalent of a lot of AD for free. And it's worth noting again that being magic damage already gives sudo-penetration qualities, what with MR being roughly a Last Whisper behind armor.

Which lets Garen pack a punch while building a lot of durability, allowing him to put the tank in tanky DPS while offering a lot of DPS, or at least damage, for free.

The only bad part of Justice is it's lengthy cooldown.

Mister Lasagna3/27/2015, 3:20:08 PM1 votes

I am not sure, Garen is made for the TOP. Making his ultimate global(Even with the justifications.) will still have a huge impact on the game.

Doing this, would seem to have some kind of complete rework with the implication.

LogosEthosPathos3/27/2015, 5:19:30 PM1 votes

So, you wanna give him like a Gangplank ulti?