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Kai'sa needs to be gutted regardless of you wanting her to sell skins

Bultz··10 votes·2,667 views

Seriously she's broken. She is and will still be broken even if you get a lot of money for her skins. Nerf her. Being 0 to 100ed by second vayne is not okay. Stop giving ranged adc everything. seriously please stop. This game is imploding on itself because you keep giving to much damage to them and to champions that shouldn't be doing damage.

Melee champion=immobile mages>assassin's=bruisers>adc>tanks

It's not a hard formula. Melee champions need tons of damage because they are dying so fast from just getting to ranged champions, much less because they melt you. Immobile mages should have that same level of damage because they need to burst because they can't escape. Assassin and bruisers need about the same damage, where assassins have it for a short period then NEED TO ESCAPE OR DIE, NOT FIGHT EVERYONE. Bruisers need to keep the damage because they are easily kitted. Then adc's because they are behind the team and are the safest. Then tanks who don't need damage because they can't die.

Ranged adc are carries meant to carry behind a team, not on the front line 1v5ing.

7 Comments

Keiaga3 votes

Bruisers need to do the same amount of damage as an assassin? Well thats how i know you have nk idea what youre talking about

Bultz1 votes

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Bruisers need to do the same amount of damage as an assassin? Well thats how i know you have nk idea what youre talking about

And that is why I know you don't. Most, if not all, bruisers are melee. They are easily kitted and easily killed. What is a slow moving, limited range, low damage, melee champion going to do when they are stunned? Or when the enemy teams tank plays front line and the bruiser gets blasted from behind from the adc? Like nothing if they have no damage. Also that comment was made to show that assassin need to lose damage as well. Assassins kill a squishy, assassin has to leave or die.

Keiaga1 votes

Lmao you're getting your terminology mixed up. Bruisers are interchangeable with the term fighter, sometimes diver. They're designed specifically to be not-quite assassins that are hard to kite and are built around sustained dps instead of burst. They're not as tanky as juggernauts but have more mobility and slightly higher damage to make up for it.

Riven Camille Vi Renekton Fiora KaynPantheon (rhaast)

Slow moving? you're thinking of tanks and juggernauts like Darius. Limited range? sure, most melee champs do. Easily kited and low damage? Yea you're definitely thinking of tanks.

But I'll give you the benefit of a doubt. Throw together a list of champs you thought were "bruisers" that aren't listed as tanks in the current in-game client to prove you know what you're trying to talk about.

Bultz1 votes

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Lmao you're getting your terminology mixed up. Bruisers are interchangeable with the term fighter, sometimes diver. They're designed specifically to be not-quite assassins that are hard to kite and are built around sustained dps instead of burst. They're not as tanky as juggernauts but have more mobility and slightly higher damage to make up for it.

Riven Camille Vi Renekton Fiora KaynPantheon (rhaast)

Slow moving? you're thinking of tanks and juggernauts like Darius. Limited range? sure, most melee champs do. Easily kited and low damage? Yea you're definitely thinking of tanks.

But I'll give you the benefit of a doubt. Throw together a list of champs you thought were "bruisers" that aren't listed as tanks in the current in-game client to prove you know what you're trying to talk about.

No, you're right, I consider what your listing as skirmishers not bruisers. I consider Juggernauts a subclass of bruisers. But besides my terminology, these Darius Garen Illaoi Nasus etc. in general. As for low damage, Take caityln for example. I've seen her take out a rhaast with a tanky build in 2 or 3 hits, auto attack hits not even kit. Darius nor rhaast could do that with their whole kit much less with aa. By the time they can actually reach you to kill you, they could have been kitted 2 or 3 times over. So to make up for everything i believe they need a good deal of damage, though Nasus atm could use a cd nerf.

Keiaga1 votes

Rhaast is tanky through lifesteal, lifesteal that scales off of the target's hp. Caitlyn, being a long range minimal health adc is a pretty bad target for him even if he was able to catch her. She'd have a more difficult time with Riven Vi Pantheon who either have on-demand shields or a better engage that doesnt rely on slowly walking up to her through a wall

Hazardus ducees1 votes

Dude, everyone does too much damage regardless and the fact that Kai'sa needs another gutted nerf is no surprise. They don't listen to their community and riot is massively to blame. This champion... or at least her kit should have never made it through the beta test phase directly said by the beta testers AND THEY PUSHED HER ANYWAYS! It's like, dude, what the fuck happened to the other champions that you removed too then? HUH? Are you going to bring them back as well?

I just wonder when they're going to bring back old URGOT's ultimate in some other champion like they said they would.

Bultz1 votes

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Dude, everyone does too much damage regardless and the fact that Kai'sa needs another gutted nerf is no surprise. They don't listen to their community and riot is massively to blame. This champion... or at least her kit should have never made it through the beta test phase directly said by the beta testers AND THEY PUSHED HER ANYWAYS! It's like, dude, what the fuck happened to the other champions that you removed too then? HUH? Are you going to bring them back as well?

I just wonder when they're going to bring back old URGOT's ultimate in some other champion like they said they would.

Her locked on attack needs to be removed. Riot keeps giving champions easy attacks that don't require any skill to us eon purpose to please casual players. Kai'sa is a great example in her getting all these skins and just not being reworked.

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