How about a champ with True sight? Too Strong? OP you say?

Occams Raiser·Jun 16, 2015·1 votes·722 views

A True Sight champ would be awesome. HOWEVER HE CAN NOT SEE WARDS. That would be lame. I don't know if it would be his passive or an ability But I want it. It could be on a support even to keep the pain down. He just won't let someone sneak up on his adc. He is the OVERSEER. Is it too powerful. I only see a few people he hard counters, and that is only if you are attacking him directly. "GO KILL SOMEONE ELSE, REN. The devil is NOT welcome here."

Let's come up with some balances for a kit and I will make a Champ Concept. I am a decent artist.

17 Comments

McAllisterJun 16, 20154 votes

Doesn't RekSai have the ability to see invisible people if they're moving?

OrbvJun 16, 20151 votes

I think is the best way they could have implemented it. By having a champion with True sight of wards, it ruins an entire gameplay aspect for players that cannot be countered. By having one champion like that on your team, you never need to buy pink wards. It also sets the enemy team back because they constantly need to ward and hope their wards stay alive.

Rek'Sai has true sight based on motion, that is genius.

Perpetual BlurJun 16, 20152 votes

It really doesn't work out this way. At least in Dota, where there's one hero who can grant vision and truesight by using a nuke, it costs too much to blow all the time till well into midgame. And that's in spite of the global 4-ward/6-minute limit for vision wards (which last 7-minutes) in Dota making it very valuable to remove one. While it does give his team a ward advantage (all else being equal) it's not overpowering.

Think of it another way; how often do people drop pinks for vision and have them dewarded? That info that the enemy walked through there is worth the price. It does mean that vision wards are a little bit more like pinks. It probably means one less sweeper on his team at the end of the game. But it would just stack the vision game a bit, not eliminate it.

OrbvJun 16, 20151 votes

If it could be implemented that it's not true sight ALL THE TIME, then it would be balanced. I assumed the OP meant true sight the entire time as a passive.

Occams RaiserJun 16, 20151 votes

Yeah. I am not ok with her limited tremor sight

5000000000000000Jun 16, 20151 votes

Maybe as a toggle or a passive for a spell that can be disabled (like janna's slow), but not permanently. Also, if the opponent doesn't have any clone/invisibility, his kit would become useless unless he can see wards.

Occams RaiserJun 16, 20151 votes

It would be good in ranked. I don't think about Blind pick most of the time. Neither does Riot.

TheRakkunJun 16, 20151 votes

Like, Slardar or Bounty Hunter from DotA?

Perpetual BlurJun 16, 20151 votes

I think the best dota model would be Zeus. Firing your main lightning bolt gives vision and truesight in a radius from the targetted point. It costs a lot of mana (Zeus can already burn through mana like crazy since he relies on a different skill for last-hitting) and leaves you without a big chunk of burst for 6 seconds. It would probably need weakened (stealth is weaker in league, so stealth counter should be too.) Maybe give truesight in a 400 radius for 3 seconds or some such? Enough to spot someone, or deward a particular bush, but not enough to fish for ward/stealth players.

Occams RaiserJun 16, 20151 votes

I would like the Idea of mana drain for true sight

KãtãrinãJun 16, 20151 votes

It would have to be able to see wards if it would have use. but at the same time it can't be on 100% the time. It would probable be a toggle that drains mana.

Occams RaiserJun 16, 20151 votes

I'm cool with this. You have theme idea?

ErockandrollJun 16, 20151 votes

If properly balance, it could work even if it did see wards. but likely it would have to be tied to the champions Ultimate. And not likely the Ultimates primary ability.

But that's a big IF.

Occams RaiserJun 16, 20151 votes

Ugh. I dont want it on an ult. I want a new utility.

Old Man TeetoJun 16, 20151 votes

RekSai

Occams RaiserJun 17, 20151 votes

nope. I said true sight

Lost RJun 16, 20151 votes

There are already a few champions that give the kind of vision that reveals cloaked champions, but you have to be careful when issuing that kind of true sight, even if you omit wards from what they can see. Rek'Sai can see any enemy units while she's submerged, but only if they're moving, and she can't see WHO it is; it could be Janna, or it could be Jax. Lulu can tag enemies with Pix, which reveals them no matter what they do, but she has to get in close to tag them, and she crumbles quickly in a direct engage, and the champions that have cloaks are mostly assassins (Kha'Zix, Rengar, Shaco, Evelynn).

There are certain drawbacks that champions that can deliver true sight have, so if you're making another one, they too must have a drawback.