Why do we have this item again? I was full AP Ryze and I couldn't kill her. I was full build, all the penetration you can get, all the mana you can get. BUT because of this one item she gets to kill me. Keep in mind this is late game, so regardless if I was behind or not, I was FULL BUILD. It's already a joke that I have to use 2 rotations of spells on an ADC. Maybe I should just build Deaths Dance on Ryze.
KirotheImmortal2 votesWait... what? You are mad that you couldnt instant kill a champ but instead you have to wait half a second to do the combo again?
NodirjonSattarov1 votesYou misunderstand the type of champion I am trying to instakill. ADCs are required to play extremely safe and position well. This items lets them play more recklessly and it seems to benefit them too well.
ManBearPig9161 votesShe still takes the damage, but the bleed buys her time to lifesteal some back.
NodirjonSattarov1 votesSo from the wiki I found out that 30% of damage taken is "stored" but returns at true damage for 10%/sec (so the duration of bleed is 3 seconds). Meanwhile, she gets to heal 15% from her physical damage dealt. Assuming I have very little armor she does more physical damage thus healing for 15% of that damage while taking only 10% of my damage/sec. Therefore, I have to OVERKILL any champion using DD which is straight bullshit.
Asterfix1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Kogfather,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=srerJOus,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-05-06T03:20:02.160+0000)
So from the wiki I found out that 30% of damage taken is "stored" but returns at true damage for 10%/sec (so the duration of bleed is 3 seconds). Meanwhile, she gets to heal 15% from her physical damage dealt. Assuming I have very little armor she does more physical damage thus healing for 15% of that damage while taking only 10% of my damage/sec. Therefore, I have to OVERKILL any champion using DD which is straight bullshit.
Yeah.. That's the point of Deaths Dance and why it costs 3500. Furthermore you could build morellos for 500 less and beat her easily.
NodirjonSattarov1 votesI did build morellos....
KZ Engel1 votesdid you check for a pocket support
also replay pls
NodirjonSattarov1 voteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHpJHptUulA
Thresh had Knight's Vow which would account for 12% of damage redirected to him. I think the key part to look at is when I combo my first E + Q, 547 magic damage comes up.
Here is where I am doing some calculations: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19KeRc3XQHZTcwtjIUHEkv9v-o-JRy-ivlJriZbWQ_Ik/edit?usp=sharing
KZ Engel3 votesgot the knights vow, the deaths dance, the healing from deaths dance, the cleaver hp
whole lot more than just deaths dance
also full rotation is more like qeqwq or qwqeq.. you only threw one q in both of those "full rotations"
NodirjonSattarov1 votesWhy did my first EQ show 547 but my second EQ show 535?
Also, why did MF get 129HP back after she killed me? Assuming I applied everything correctly (applying armor pen etc.), from one AA she would have only healed 54hp (non-crit) OR 81hp (crit).
I didn't even apply the Morellonomicon's healing reduction to the 129hp. If healing is reduced by 40% for 3 seconds, then the non-negated healing value would be 194hp?
ZackTheWaffleMan1 votesDid she have Triumph?
NodirjonSattarov1 votesNo, she didn't: https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2777503278/33051509?tab=overview
So since I can't actually figure out how long each abilities bleed was applied for my estimate, from the moment my first ability hit to when she finally died I theoretically did 2448 damage to MF.
I've hated this item since the day they released it.