Normally I main support, but playing ranked as a support with no duo partner is entirely dependent on your lane partner being good. Same can be said for ADC. So I'm looking for suggestions as to where it seems to be easiest for people to rank up out of low elo as a solo player.
Any tips?
Kirius Dark1 votesTop. Jungle top and support are macro roles who play for the team game and mapwide, whereas mid and bot is more micro required to win trades, CS and duels. Jungle is harder to pick up than top needing to know spawn timers, jungle paths, ganking decisions etc so going into top first would be easier
Quannari1 votesI would say it depends on your play style. What type of supports do you play? Are you aggressive in lane or more passive? Do you enjoy roaming or would you rather stay with your partner?
Nalisai1 votesI would say it depends on your play style. What type of supports do you play? Are you aggressive in lane or more passive? Do you enjoy roaming or would you rather stay with your partner?
I tend to prefer aggressive/poke style characters. I'm good with 
. M6 Sona but as good as she is in low elo, I don't want to get used to her and then get up higher and not be able to play her :(.
Quannari1 votesIn that case, I would recommend mid lane then.
Usually, supports are macro players and focus on creating team pressure by teamfight presence with initiation or peel, creating picks while roaming, or providing information via ward coverage and denial. Sometimes you see supports that function as a damage threat, and those can be very powerful in the right situations.
If you feel you can have more influence by being in a solo lane rather than a duo lane, I would say that mid may be the best option based on your play-style. You claim to prefer aggressive/poke style characters. If you are able to snowball an aggressive lead in mid lane, you can roam and provide pressure to your side lanes or even follow-up with your jungler during invades. Also, mid lane is shorter, so poke allows you to easily siege with the ability to retreat if necessary.
Thrëat1 votesMid.
If you are a lot better than your elo you will be matched up in a 1v1 where you can get fed. You can impact top and bottom lane with roams. You can assist your jungler with invades and ganks as well. There is a steady flow of gold if you are capable of last hitting and timing when to leave lane properly.
The role literally has the biggest impact on games.
CrisisEchoes1 votesRoaming is the most effective way of winning a game on supports. if you sit in lane with a potato adc all game ofc youre gonna lose. That doesnt mean abandon the adc. give him some wards, pop back in every once and a while, and number 1 rule is do not tell him he is a potato, just roam and ping. If your adc is good, then you stay with them and try to get em kills. If not help out your 2-0 midlaner, ward so he doesnt do something stupid. Sometimes you can even help top, they never expect it and it almost always nets atleast 1 kill
Åeolus1 votesSo not true. You carry games as support by peeling and saving everyone in team fights. If you can't do that you're bad.
CrisisEchoes2 votesSo not true. You carry games as support by peeling and saving everyone in team fights. If you can't do that you're bad.
Lmao we are talking the first 10 minutes of the game. Ofcourse mid to late in groups you peel... thats just the obvious. Thought it didnt need to be said.
Åeolus1 votesIt's not the most effective way to carry though, teamfighting is. Most of the time you'll be able to roam 1-3 times in the first ten minutes and you'll be lucky to get a kill.
CrisisEchoes1 votesIt's not the most effective way to carry though, teamfighting is. Most of the time you'll be able to roam 1-3 times in the first ten minutes and you'll be lucky to get a kill.
You see, the purpose of roaming isnt to get a kill, its to get a flash. WIthout flash champions are really easy to focus, and that alone tends to win fights
Åeolus1 votesThere are no fights at <10 minutes.
Åeolus1 votesA lot of challenger support mains would at least be able to get to diamond 1 in a matter of 200-300 games if they were unranked. Seems to me like you're looking for an excuse as to why you're stuck in your elo. Having a mentality like that and not realizing you're making mistakes will inhibit you from climbing. Also you die all the time and have horrible kdas so clearly your adc isn't doing badly, you are.
Kirius Dark3 votesA lot of challenger support mains would at least be able to get to diamond 1 in a matter of 200-300 games if they were unranked. Seems to me like you're looking for an excuse as to why you're stuck in your elo. Having a mentality like that and not realizing you're making mistakes will inhibit you from climbing.
Supports carry high elo with peels and initiations, but at low elo it's actual damage carries that wni the games so if you have a potato ADC then there's no point peeling or CCing for them if they dont react to it or just die no matter what you do. Peel for them but hey look they didnt even run and flashed in to die instead... or CCed the enemy carry to kill but they're still just CSing - cant miss that cannon minion ya know.... :/
Åeolus1 votesSo? Who said your adc had to be good? If he's bad and you're playing a passive support just let him farm and peel for the people who are doing well on your team mid-late game. If you're playing a mage support you don't need an amazing adc, you can carry the lane yourself.
Nalisai1 votesA lot of challenger support mains would at least be able to get to diamond 1 in a matter of 200-300 games if they were unranked. Seems to me like you're looking for an excuse as to why you're stuck in your elo. Having a mentality like that and not realizing you're making mistakes will inhibit you from climbing. Also you die all the time and have horrible kdas so clearly your adc isn't doing badly, you are.
So basically screw the adc and just build to carry myself?
I know i make mistakes, but when my team is on the same page and knows their roles I do very well and don't die. When my team sucks, my stats suffer for it, is all I'm saying. I just want a role that doesn't rely as heavily on other teammates to potentially bring a victory without the screw the adc mentality of not building support.
I'm fairly good in just about every position, though I need a lot of practice top before I think about that. I tend to play AP champs best, and my off roles are normally anything but top. My major personal issues is that I'm too aggressive/greedy, and that's why I end up dying a lot. I try to force things to get better and it never works :P .
Åeolus1 votesMost of the times dying is bad. There are some occasions were dying is ok if it wins you a team fight (maybe a flash ult with morg followed with zhnoyas to snare two people so your team can catch up to them and kill them). Playing aggressively is also bad. You need to punish people for their mistakes (Thresh misses his q? Try to initiate a trade) or you can have calculated aggression. If you know you can win a trade or fight it's fine to play like that.
Supports don't have to rely on their teams either. You can carry your adc or do well in team fights. Most of the times your you can carry a bad adc by peeling for him. If your Vayne can't kite for shit keep everyone away from her so she doesn't need to be able to. Or if there's someone fed with a champion that does a lot of damage do the same for them.
Nalisai1 votesYeah, dying is something I know I need to work on. I tend to be over aggressive or just plain out of position and get caught out. My learning curve in this regard has unfortunately been hampered a great deal by my aggressive tendencies when I play. Ironically, I tend to be more patient with champs like Talon or Aatrox...
The not relying on my team thing tends to bug me though. I always hate it when I have a support who 'builds selfish' and not support items ( 
etc. rather than 
) And it seems like you can't generate the oomph you need without doing that. Maybe it's just me - I am currently Bronze 2, although during my provisionals I DID get placed with several Gold + Diamond players multiple times. Maybe that's the way the provisionals work, but I ould think my MMR had something to do with it.
Åeolus1 votesYou can build and 
don't see what's wrong with that. And no one climbs by allowing themselves to get carried. Everyone would be high ranking then lol
Bird Brains1 votesJungle>Mid>AD>Support/Top
