make adc's pick between armor pen or grevious wounds.

MunchCrunchLunch··2 votes·725 views

armor pen is a no brainer buy on any adc at the moment. especially mortal reminder. and the finished item. here is the problem. you are getting a good chunk of ad. grevious wounds passive. and armor pen in one item. the other problem. is that unlike nomicon. it procs at any point of physical damage dealt. its not gated by enemy health percentage. which is ridiculous for drain tanks like mundo nasus or warwick to deal with.

make them choose. make an item that gives ad and grevious wounds. SO. other AD champions have access to it. and adc's still can buy it. right now as an ad champion your only hope is to buy the unfinished component and sit on it really if you need it in a lane. thats why trundle is so opressive in lane. hes at 10% health. he ults you immediately start losing the 1v1 despite you just roflstomping him down to an inch of health.

new grevious wounds item. just keep the lord dominks. though i suspect to see the old last whisper come back without this imma do bonus damage to tanks from both armor pen and the passive given to me for no reason but doing more damage.

mundo's winrate is shit. and so most every tanky drain tank. extremely unviable. i mean warwick building straight up full tank not even some lifesteal. and nasus is terrible right now.

the bonus armor pen item has no value on 90% of melee roster if not all.

also gate the passive just like nomicon. its unfair to have an advantage like this. you need to finish the whole nomicon to get the anti healing meanwhile with the ad u get it for 800 gold.

bring the old last damn whisper back. enough of this one item solves everything bs.

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AwesomeChad2 votes

this isn't even the biggest issue on adcs currently. Riot needs to address AD itemization because certain adcs are able to buy these stronger early game items: youmuu's ghostltblade/ duskblade and beat out all these other adcs that build early Infinity edge. As an ADC main, I guarantee you that its due to these items being built on adcs that some adcs can seem overwhelming in the early game. Right now, ADCs are hitting massive powerspikes at 1-2 items whereas an ADC that builds early IE/attack speed item hits these power spikes at 2-3 items. Its this disparity that is the main issue.

I hate my ADC2 votes

Last I checked Morellonomicon's Grievous Wounds > Mortal Reminder's Grievous Wounds. 8 seconds of debuff versus 5 seconds of debuff. Most caster take much less than 3 seconds to reapply the debuff and they can usually apply it from farther away.

As for giving Grievous Wounds to melee AD champions... If they give it to them, what is it going to be next? You'll want Banner of Command to not be limited to AP? For Mikael's Crucible to not be a Support only item? A Frost Queen's Claim for AD? Hextech items? Tell me... who use Titanic Hydra? Dead's Man Plate? Guinsoo's Rageblade?

Every role has their limitations. You can't have everything. Grievous Wounds is limited to certain AP champions and ADCs. Just like being beefy is mostly limited to melee champions. Even Mortal Reminder is limited by the enemy having armor in the first place. It won't be very effective against a healing support that has a team of squishies and full engage tanks.

Like another poster said, the real problematic items here are Ghostblade and Duskblade being rushed on certain ADC cough Jhin cough.

WolfChases1 votes

The amount or armor pene and crit on ADCs is insane. Especially when Caitlyn accidentally crits for 800 damage and lifesteals out of it like there's no tomorrow.

I agree with you, there should be no armor pene and grievous combined not there should be life stealing out of crits on a ranged ADs.

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